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The Infallibility Of Science, The Divinity Of Jesus and A Pope


by Ian R Thorpe.

When a question about why so many seemingly rational people accept the idea of Jesus's divinity was posted at a site I use a very lively thread developed. Strangely it was not the Christians who were pedantic and resisdtant to new ideas but people who claim they are atheists and agnostics.

The Infallibility Of Science, The Divinity Of Jesus and A Pope. by Ian R Thorpe

As a non believer my interest in this topic was sparked when a contributor at gather.com (a closed site for members only) using the name "Jojo the dog faced boy" posed the question Why are many rational people prepared to accept the divinity of Jesus? Jojo (a man of considerable intellect hiding behind a mask of Gumpish simplicity) is quite happy with the idea of Jesus as a historical reality but not with the Son of God, Immaculate Conception stuff.

It sparked a lively comment thread, with believers and non believers piling in to repeat the dogmas of their creed. A creed on non belief? you might well ask. Oh yes, there are several in fact. There are the followers of the pseudo liberal, crypto fascist political correctness cult whose philosophy is to make sure individualism, independent thought and personal belief are subsumed under a heavy cloak of orthodoxy so that all the people will on command hold hands and sing Kumbiya and thus banish poverty, injustice, disease and unfairness and create an instant utopia. Then there are the believers in the Obamessiah cult who are sure is people would stop thinking for themselves and accept the Obamessiah as their saviour then the economy would be fixed, nobody would have to work as the earth would give forth of it's own bounty and all the straight men and women would become turd burglars, rug munchers, trannies and perverts overnight. Above them in the hierarchy of looniness come the science worshippers who believe the answers to all the great questions can be found in mathematical equations using numbers someone made up. A motley crew indeed. Next to them religious fundamentalists, young earth creationists and and people who believe in the soup dragon seem comparitavely sane.

But comment threads on questions such as the one Jojo posted always come down to "Does God exist?" "Why do people cling to religion when science is clearly omnipotent, omnipresent and infallible?" and "Why do people disagree with crypto fascist pseudo liberals when the latter are so obviously right about everything?"

The problem stems from the fact that believers in the new synthetic religions will persist in trying to answer questions that are unanswerable, to apply reason and logic to that which is irrational and illogical. When considering this question my mind is drawn to these lines written by Alexander Pope:

... Know then thyself, presume not God to scan;
The proper study of mankind is man.
Placed on this isthmus of a middle state,
A being darkly wise, and rudely great:
With too much knowledge for the sceptic side,
With too much weakness for the stoic's pride,
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a god or beast;
In doubt his mind or body to prefer;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Alike in ignorance, his reason such,
Whether he thinks to little or too much;
Chaos of thought and passion all confused;
Still by himself abused, or disabused;
Created half to rise, and half to fall;
Great lord of all things, yet a prey to all;
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurled;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world! ...
(from An Essay On Man by Alexander Pope)

Richard Dawkins, geneticist, author of The God Delusion and allegedly founder of militant atheism, has suggested that Prime Minister David Cameron is "not really" a believer in God but a "believer in belief", one of those people who, though in themselves non-believers in the divine deity, nonetheless believe in religion as a beneficial part of society, that faith is "good for the community" and helps to bind the nation into a coherent cultural unit. Dawkins is rather presumptuous to assume he knows what Cameron really believes when The Prime Minister has said his faith "sort of comes and goes". David Cameron's confession of a "fairly classic sort of Church of England faith" may suggest a hypocritical position, his attitude towards whatever it is he thinks he should believe in being ambivalent until a show of piety is politically expedient. His enthusiasm for gay marriage hints at a certain moral relativism. But on the available evidence Mr. Cameron is no atheist and that Dawkins has no grounds for saying otherwise. (Apart of course from that , solipsistic "progressive liberal" / militant atheist assertion that "evidence is whatever one of us says it is.")

Dawkins does raise an valid point however. There are a lot of people in every walk of life who believe that any kind of religious faith, even one that does not require a total belief in the existence of a supreme being, is better than none. Some say they find it comforting to think there is some higher power especially when they look at the mess humans have made of everything. Others while not deeply convinced of the presence of any superior being let alone one that is all knowing and all seeing, still find the feeling of belonging to, of being part of some kind of community with shared beliefs and values helps them cope with the vagaries of life.

As guest editor of the New Statesman's Christmas issue this year, Dawkins wrote: "A depressingly large number of intelligent and educated people, having outgrown religious faith themselves, still vaguely presume without thinking about it that religious faith is somehow good for other people, good for society, good for public order, good for instilling morals."

It is this attitude that lies behind Prince Charles's reported wish to be known, when he eventually ascends to the British throne, as "Defender of Faiths" rather than as defender merely of the Anglican faith; and also behind the Tony Blair Faith Foundation with which the former prime minister, a Catholic convert, is striving to unite the world's various religions as a force for social progress. The idea that to believe in anything, whether it exists or not, is better than having no belief; and that any belief, however deluded, makes you a better person than a non-believer is hard to support. There is however scientific evidence that belief, ritual and superstition can help conquer illness and also enhance athletic and intellectual prowess.

The Crux of Dawkins' questioning of David Cameron then is; "How can it be virtuous to believe in something that is obviously not true? Yet the whole point of belief is, is it not, to put faith in on something that cannot be proved? And we all, do we not, believe in things that have not and cannot be proved. Look at the scienceheads insistence that Big Bang is a fact. And yet all they can offer to support that assertion is mathematic speculation based on highly subjective interpretations of data gathered by capturing radio waves that have travelled across the universe for billions of years (allegedly - could be anything really).

Belief in belief for its own sake is so prevalent that it has been suggested many non believers feel compelled by peer pressure to profess a belief they do not feel. That may be so, all I can say is I have never felt such pressure. Strangely, if we observe society, it is often people who cannot or will not accept religious propositions for which no empirical evidence exists (though they may be willing to accept such notions from the science cultists) who tend to suffer more self-doubt and anxiety and are more likely to seek professional help in dealing with their self doubt and insecurities than those who are prepared to take that great leap into the dark and let God, Jesus, Allah or something into their lives. This insecurity among those who deny faith and insist they are only interested in that which is supported by "scientific" evidence may help to explain why books denying the existence of the supernatural – Dawkins's God Delusion or Christopher Hitchens God Is Not Great for example, have topped the non fiction bestseller lists. Even in our overwhelmingly secular, materialistic society, belief in God is still regarded as a socially acceptable position while non-believers need constant reassurance that their atheism is in fact a rational lifestyle choice.

In my experience it is not what one believes in that is important but the belief itself.

Maybe there is something in the idea that "there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamed on in your philosophies" Prof. Dawkins, after all.

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As of Sept. 27, 2021 there were 569,294 adverse event reports associated with COVID-19 vaccination in the U.S., according to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

September 2021

Deaths among Teenagers have increased by 47% in the UK since they started getting the Covid-19 Vaccine according to official ONS data
Shock news as ONS official figures for 2020 show teenage deaths in the UK were up almost 150percent against corrsponsing period in 2019. Just one of the many social costs of the governmen's over-the-top pandemic response NOT reported by mainstream media.

Boris’ Government Trying To Bypass Parliament, Introduce Vaccine Passports By Back Door
We warned you this authoritarian government would not let the idea of vaccine passports go and here they are, reported by Summit News (well you didn't expect to see it in mainstream media did you?} tyring to bring in their wretched "Papers Please" legislation by the back door.

Green Dreams Menu
It may be driven by virtue signalling or self hatred but the urge to destroy civilisation in order to save the planet and the ideological agenda that drive the gree movement are too far removed from the realities of life to ever achieve their aims.

Covid Vaccine Fascism
Greenteeth Digital Publishing catalogue of posts on the covid pandemic authoritrariansm propaganda and pushbacks. Find posts on the authoritarian acts of government, the lies of Big Pharma vaccine makers and the protests and pushbacks from the people whose resistance is not being reported in mainstream media

Ivermectin? Neigh problem. US Food and Drung Agency Lists 'Horse Drug' As Approved COVID Treatment
After banning the use of anti - parasitic, anti - inflammatory drug Ivermecting for use in the economically developed nations because it was a "horse drug" the US Food and Drug administration has now approved another horse drug. The difference? Ivermectin is a more efficient and cheaper alternative to vacccines, dexamethasone is only effective against those seriously ill with COVID. Or to put the case bluntly, it may cover up evidence that the vaccines are failing as more double vaccinated people than unvaccinated are falling sick with COVID.

Have You Committed Your Three Thought Crimes Today?
You're a criminal. So am I. We all are, according to some legal experts there are now so many crimes, a lot of them loosely defined, it is impossible to get through the day without committing at least three crimes. In fac it is often the case that by obeying one law you are breaking another.

Vaccine shocker From Germany: "Out of ten autopsies, five deaths would be “very probably” linked to vaccines
A shocking report from respected German scientists claims out of 10 autopsies carried out on people who tested positive for COVID, five of the deaths were somehow linked to vaccines and the many observed side effects that occur soon after beople have been injected with COVID vaccine.

UK School staff receive threats of violence amid anti-vaccination campaign

Government plans to push their dodgy vaccines onto schoolchildren are meeting opposition. On the back of scientific studies showing children are at zero risk from cOVID and do not spread the virus parents, and citizens concerned at this fascistic coercion of citizens to accept an experimental medication are reacting in the only way they can.

Are Vaccines The New Messiah Or Are They Bollocks?
Throughout the pandemic of 2020 .21 we have been encouraged by a carefully constructed narrative to believe vaccines will be our messiah and only compliance with government diktat can save us from the kiler virus. But is it all bollocks?

"F**K The Jab, Long Live Australia" - 20,000 Shut Down Melbourne Highway In Massive Lockdown Protest
Anti-lockdown protests have become commonplace in Australia since the latest round of "snap" lockdowns began two months ago although you wouldn't think so if you rely on mainstream media for information about what's going on in this increasingly insane world. Newspapers and broadcast news channels have almost totally blanked stories reporting the pushback against the Australian government's increasingly authoritarian measures


he cultural elite says our new culture secretary is uncultured, yet I’d wager she’s the first best-selling author to hold the job, and the only one I know of to have eaten an ostrich anus on TV, which sounds positively French. The appointment of Nadine Dorries – an outspoken former nurse, businesswoman and star of I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here – is not a two fingers up to the culture industry but the direction of travel. That’s what so terrifies the gatekeepers.

How many more young lives will be sacrificed on Gates’s vaccine altar?
It’s remarkable that the man who has become the unelected global health czar and population control advocate is not being questioned on his past more closely. Though we are living through a crisis predicted by Gates and a response triggered and bankrolled by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which are driving us towards a vaccination and biometric ID solution which Gates has been working on for years, he’s still regarded as a benign philanthropist.

19 September 2021: India State of 241 MILLION People Declared COVID-Free After Government Promotes Ivermectin over Vaccines
The Indian state of Uttar Pradesh in India, which has the equivalent of two-thirds of the United States population, has been declared COVID-free, the state government announced last week. There are no more active cases of coronavirus in the 33 districts of Uttar Pradesh, which has a population of 241 million people.

18 September 2021: New Anti - Vaccine protest in London as double vaccinated people continue to get sick with COVID
Thousands of Anti-vaccine protesters marched from Camden to Downing Street in central London this afternoon, calling on the government to scrap plans to present Covid jab to youngsters.Police in riot gear dispersed protesters after purple paint bombs were thrown over the black ironwork of the gates of Downing Street.

France: Thousands of Health Workers Who Refused Covid Vaccine Mandate Suspended
17 September 2021: The French government have today suspended 3,000 health workers who have defied a manadte requiring all medical personnel to be vaccinated against COVI|D, The Guardian reports. Announcing the move France’s health minister said that many have since agreed to be inoculated now that they had seen “the mandate was a reality”. This of course violates the workers human rights under the Geneva Convention as well as about a million French civil and employment rights laws.

Italy Mandates COVID-19 Vaccine Passports For All Private Sector Workers
17 September 2021: Italys undemocratically appointed left wing government, acting no doubt on ordrrs from the EU which appointed the governing hotch - potch coalition yesterday (16 September) approved new and restrictive rules using the COVID-19 pandemic as an excise for this lurch towards fascism. The new rules which are aning the strictest in the world, in the world mandate that all private and public sector employees get the vaccine and show proof of vaccination,

Leaked Zoom Video Exposes Hospital Officials Discussing COVID-19 Scare Tactics
16 September 2021: A leaked Zoom conference reveals a doctor questioning how to increase the count of COVID-19 patient numbers on the hospital’s dashboard report.National File and other local media outlets that reported on the leak identified the people in the video as Mary Kathryn Rudyk, a physician at the medical center, who is asking Carolyn Fisher, the hospital’s director of marketing, how to inflate the number of people classified as COVID-19 patients for the purpose of generating fear in the unvaccinated.

10 September 2021: The Left is lying to itself, it needs limited migration as much as the Right does.

When Santiago Abascal, leader of Spanish right-wing party Vox, delivered a press conference on the 30th August, it did not take long for perhaps the most controversial part of his speech to be put into bite-sized form. Europe does not have moral duty to welcome or accept every Afghan or African who seeks to enter.

Has Biden's Afghan Surrender Handed The Future To China
5 September: The abrupt and ill - considered withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan ordered by President Joe (Dementia Man) Biden and the susequent return to power of Islamic fundamentalist The Taliban hands control of the vast Afghan litium reserves to China and is a blow to the green agenda of the G7 nations

Why All The Fuss About Ivermectin?
First hydroxychloroquine, now ivermectin, is the hated deadly drug de jour, castigated by the medical establishment and regulatory authorities. Both drugs have been around for a long time as FDA-approved prescription medications. Yet now we are told they are as deadly as arsenic.

As a physician, I am certainly aware of ivermectin but don’t recall ever writing a prescription for it in my 30+ years’ medical career.

The Illusion Of Stability, The Inevitability Of Collapse

Imagine being at a party celebrating the vast wealth generated in the last ten months in stocks, cryptocurrencies, real estate and just about every other asset class. The lights flicker briefly but the host assures the crowd the generator powering the party is working perfectly. Being a skeptic, you slip out on the excuse of bringing in more champagne and pay a visit to the generator room. To your horror, you find the entire arrangement held together with duct tape

The Orwellian Vaccine Passport Agenda Relies On The Lie Of The "Social Contract"
There is a fundamental question that needs to be asked when examining the vaccine passport issue, and what I find is that almost no one in the mainstream is tackling it directly. The question is this: "Is it legally and morally acceptable to constrict the rights and economic access of people in order to force them to submit to an experimental “vaccine”, or any other medical procedure for that matter?"

Johnson’s Proposed National Insurance Hike Threatens Jobs And Recovery
The prime minister has been warned by The Confederation Of British Industry and other groups and campaigners representing various areas of the national economy that job creation and young workers will bear the brunt of what is essentially a stealth tax affecting 25m people.

Thousands Protests Against Covid Vaccine Passports In London
Unreported by mainstream media as in previous months, crowds numbering tens of thousands gathered in London on the last weekend of the month to protest agains the government's plans to introduce vaccine passports next month.

August 2021

Hundreds arrested during anti-lockdown protests in Australia
31 August: Throughout the pandemic of fear one of the big surprises has been the way Australians, known for being a nation of independent minded, outspoken, awkward bastarts have meekly accepted some of the most opressive restrictions on personal freedom and civil liberties, but it seems things may be changing as the Aussies say "enough".

July 2021

Populist Politicians Threaten Legal Action Against Proposed Covid Passports
Spanish populist party VOX has threatened legal action against the Madrid government if the ruling coalition implements a so-called health passport scheme that would require proof of vaccination or a negative coronavirus test to enter certain businesses. The leader of VOX, Santiago Abascal, stated this week, that if the Madrid government wanted to introduce a health pass he and VOX would take the matter to court.

E U Central Bank Digital Currency Is The Death Rattle Of A Failed Experiment

The announcement from the European Central Bank (ECB) that is is to intrduce an official European Union digital currency spells the end of the European Single Currency experiment and with it the ambition of "ever closer union until the EU's member states were merged into a single political entity Digital Currencies might not quite be Ponzi schemes but on appearances the difference can be compared to that between a horse and a pony.

Entire vaccine theory OBLITERATED as Biden promises you can’t catch Covid if you get the vaccinationIf the Covid vaccines really work, then everyone who gets them should not ever be worried about catching it from anyone who doesn’t get the jab. The installed fake president Joe Biden said, “You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.” So if vaccines protect you 100 percent, why does it matter if others around you aren’t vaccinated? The claim that unvaccinated people are somehow a risk to the vaccinated just got obliterated.

Blood doctor releases findings showing Moderna’s mRNA Covid vaccines change red blood cells
27 July: it’s time to become your own “medical investigator,” because these vaccine manufacturers and regulatory agencies do not have our best interest in mind. Would you like to know exactly what the mRNA vaccines do to your blood that’s far more dangerous than the Covid-19 virus or any of its variants? You don’t have to be a mechanic to learn and understand how dirty oil can ruin a motor, and you don’t have to be a doctor or scientist to understand how mRNA Covid vaccines are changing red blood cells to make them stick together.

First They Came For The Unvaccinated And I Did Not Speak Out
Authorities in Germany have indicated that unvaccinated people could be banned from cinemas and restaurants and that those who have taken the jab will have “more freedom.” Angela Merkel’s chief of staff Helge Braun told Bild that if cases keep rising, new rules will be brought in that will ensure the unvaccinated are deprived of basic lifestyle activities.

July 28: Scamdemic! Leaked Data Shows Over Half of UK ‘COVID Hospitalizations’ Tested AFTER Admission
NHS figures exclusively provided to The Telegraph allegedly show patients counted as COVID-positive by the British government were originally admitted to the hospital for separate ailments.No wonder the UK requires a COVID test to everyone admitted to hospitals, they’re trying to pump up the numbers!

Grooming & Abuse: Story of teenage girl raped, forced into child marriage and then abandoned by system
July 29: A report commissioned after nine men were jailed over the sexual exploitation of girls who had been in council care in Bradford revealed that a girl victim of grooming and sexual abuse at the hands of one of the notorious gangs of Muslim mem who targeted such vulnerable young girls in Bradford and the surrounding areas. The victim, while sill a child, was raped by multiple men, physically abused and forced into an Islamic marriage against her will.

Scamdemic! Leaked Data Shows Over Half of UK ‘COVID Hospitalizations’ Tested AFTER Admission Proving the COVID “pandemic” to be a total scam, leaked data out of the UK shows 56% of alleged COVID hospitalizations were people who tested positive after going to the hospital for a different health issue.

NHS figures exclusively provided to The Telegraph claim to show patients counted as COVID-positive by the British government were originally admitted to the hospital for separate ailments.

Scientists want to insert ‘their mark’, be called ‘your creator’ and ‘own you’
We’ve said it before and we’ll no doubt say it again, scientists are dangerous. Ranging from the downright stupid (climate scientists, to the unashamedly neo – Nazi (cOVID vaccines eugenicists) to the criminally psychopathic (the transgender mob who believe their irresponsible tinkering with the human genome will create a race of superbeings.

First They Came For The Unvaccinated And I Did Not Speak Out
Authorities in Germany have indicated that unvaccinated people could be banned from cinemas and restaurants and that those who have taken the jab will have “more freedom.”
Angela Merkel’s chief of staff Helge Braun told Bild that if cases keep rising, new rules will be brought in that will ensure the unvaccinated are deprived of basic lifestyle activities.“The number of new infections is increasing even faster than in the previous waves. That worries me very much,” said Braun.

London Freedom Rally:Tens Of Thousands In Trafalgar Square To Protest Against Covid Passports
As the UK government stepts up its push to introduce vaccines passport which would exclude unvaccinated people from many basic, everyday activities, huge crowds gathered in London and other UK cities to protest against lockdowns, track and trace apps, coercive measures to force unwilling people to accept experimental vaccines, mask mandates, social distancing and all the other oppressive and fascistic measures imposed by Boris Johnson’s authoritarian government

France: Thousands Protest Against Vaccine Passports and Mandatory Vaccination
July 21, Reports of numerous protests, with the total number involved estimated at over 1 million, took place across France on Saturday. They were protesting against authoritarian policies of forcing vaccination of health workers as a prelude to mandate the vaccination of all citizens and residents and requiring a COVID-19 free certificate, colloquially known as a “vaccine passport” to enter places such as sports stadia, theatres, restaurants, cinemas. and even shopping malls.

Doctors and Scientists Warn Of Covid Vaccine Dangers Government And Big Pharma Corporations Are covering Up
The vast majority of people who are getting injected for Covid-19 will die within a few short years from heartfailure, warns Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D., a medical practitioner in British Columbia, Canada. In one of his latest updates, Dr. Hoffe explains that he is observing in patients who took an mRNA (messenger RNA) “vaccine” from either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna that their capillaries are now plugging up, which he says will eventually lead to a serious cardiovascular event.

So Much For "Freedom Day": UK Health Authorities Bar Unvaccinated Patrons From Nightclubs Thousands of young Britons celebrated "Freedom Day" by piling into nightclubs that had been closed for nearly a year-and-a-half, indulging in the kind of nightlife activities they once took for granted. Unfortunately for those who haven't been "fully vaccinated", the UK's vaccine's minister Nadhim Zahawi said Monday that a negative coronavirus test will "no longer be sufficient" proof that a person is COVID safe.

Zahawi said a negative coronavirus test would soon "no longer be sufficient" proof that a person was COVID-safe, and instead they urged nightclubs and other businesses to use the NHS COVID pass, which contains their vaccination status. Public health authorities will be monitoring to see how many businesses voluntarily follow this 'recommendation'. Over the next few weeks, "we will be keeping a close watch on how it is used by venues and reserve the right to mandate if necessary."

But pretty soon, providing proof of vaccination status might be a requirement in the UK,

The EU is its own worst enemy

2 July 2021: If the European Union wants to achieve its goal of 'ever closer Union', along with continued border expansion, then it's time Brussels re-evaluated its strategy. The behaviour and approach in recent years has done nothing but tarnish the EU's reputation and make it perfectly clear to all neighbouring countries this is not a community you want to be part of if you do not want to be tied to Brussels for decades to come, argues Jayne Adye, Director of Get Britain Out.

"Panic Porn Passed Off As Science" As The Delta Variant Scare Used To Prolong Pandemic Misery

1 July 2021: Mainstram media was in meltdown today as the scaremonger in chief, sponsor of biological weapons development, liar, fraud, fake scientist and general cunt Dr. Anthony Fauci's warnings about the supposedly "dire threat" posed by the Delta variant of the SARS-COV2 virus which causes COVID-19 continues to be dramatically amplified by the news media in most democratic nations .

Sacked by the NHS – a Doctor with the courage to say No to vaccines
A GP who resigned his ‘job for life’ as a partner with a Hampshire practice because of his doubts about Covid-19 vaccines has been suspended by NHS England for questioning coronavirus protocol. Dr Sam White received a letter on Friday informing him that he was suspended with immediate effect, which stops him practising as a doctor within the NHS. On Saturday he was telephoned by a senior clinical adviser to NHS England, who condescendingly called him ‘poppet’.


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