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A Computer That Thinks?

by Ian R Thorpe.

Again, prompted by scientists hyperbolic claims, the question of will computers ever be able to think like humans is raised. Technology nerds long for the advent artificial intelligence and the thinking computer but as usual they have not thought through the likely consequences.
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It is worrying how many people who style themselves "scientists" have difficulty distinguishing between science fact and fiction.

More worrying still, a conversational computer by the name of Cleverbot has, according to the very possibly hyperbolic claims of it's maker just come closer than ever to thinking for itself.

So what about that Turing test? The Bletchley Park codebreaker and pioneering computer scientist Alan Turing introduced the question of whether machines could think for themselves in 1950. Since then, computer programmers have sought to pass what has become known as the Turing test – whether a human can, after a few minutes conversing with it, be fooled into thinking a computer is human.

At a technology festival in India, 30 volunteers held four-minute dialogues via PC screens with an unknown entity. While half chatted with Cleverbot, a computer program written by British artificial intelligence developer Rollo Carpenter, the other half conversed with a human, who typed his responses into a networked system. All the conversations were displayed on large screens for the audience. With 1,334 votes cast – many more than in any previous Turing test – 59.3 per cent thought Cleverbot was human. The human scored 63.3 per cent.

After studying the conversations technology journalists held with Cleverbot at cleverbot.com, it is surprising the program should have fooled so many people although as the experiment was conducted in English it is perhaps significant the test was conducted in India. For how many participants was the language of the test not their first language?

The question "Do you know what the Turing Test is?" produced the answer "The Turing Test? I have no idea what that is,"

"My dog's got no nose," another journo proposed, citing a kindergarten play yard joke.
The standard answer to set up the punchline is, "How does he smell?"
Punchline: "Terrible.".
Computers, like climate science devotees have no sense of humour. Cleverbot responded "My dog's name is T'challa."

Mr Carpenter has been working in this area for several years, having twice won the Loebner Prize, an award set up by American inventor Hugh Loebner in 1990 to find the most human-seeming chatterbot. In the competition, a panel of judges converse with a computer and a human, then vote on which is which. If more than 30 per cent choose incorrectly, the computer is considered to have passed the Turing test. It has never been done.

Is there any point in a computer one can shoot the breeze with?

"It's entertainment," said Mr Carpenter who obviously needs to get out more.. "It's something people spend hours doing. Around 100,000 conversations take place at cleverbot.com every day. It's purpose is to learn how to converse in an interesting manner, and in doing so it gathers conversational data that could be used in other ways."

An interesting manner? You will see below that Cleverbot might be able to assemble words in reasonably good order but is several million years of evolution from being able to provide the kind of witty banter one might expect from P.J. O'Rourke or Stephen Fry.

The target markets are commercial telephone or online sales functions, companionship for the elderly (who might be doddery but are probably a lot sharper than Carpenter gives them credit for being), and in the intelligence services, where machines are needed sift through millions of documents and discern their meaning. But intelligence is a tricky concept and, unfortunately for Mr Carpenter, Cleverbot is not something chat line operators or people who work for MI5 should have sleepless nights over. Finance managers of telesales firms and old people however might as sales and profits plummet and cleverbot proves totally incapable of reminiscing about the sixties, fifties or WW2. Personally I have little patience when talking to real people in call centres who are not allowed to go off script and think for themselves. Prhaps there is a dastardly plot being realised by scienceheads and the dark forces of control freakery; if they can't make computers that think like humans they will make humans think like computers.

Even the system's creator acknowledges its limitations. "Cleverbot is imitating the intelligence of the people it talks to. A smidgen of intelligence is involved in what it does, but it is no way the same as human intelligence. You could not say that it is thinking, that it is self-aware or conscious." says Rollo Carpenter. Oh, so he has built a mechanical parrot then. The test that inspired me to look at Cleverbot was to measure it either passing or coming close to passing a 'chatty' Turing test – one where the only test is whether the computer can have a fun conversation – and it would not pass it every time. When a computer does pass the Turing test without significant bending of the definition of human, it will still not be fully intelligent computer. For a computer to exhibit true intelligence you will need exponential orders of magnitude more computing power than is currently available. It will need to get out into the world, and be capable of receiving and interpreting other sensory data."

Cleverbot will not be attending this year's Loebner Prize, to be held at Exeter University. It failed to make the final.

In 2008, Eugene Goostman a 13-year-old boy from Odessa, Ukraine, the son of a talk-show host and a gynaecologist, who keeps a guinea pig called Bill in his bedroom and likes the science fiction novels of Sergei Lukyanenko and Kurt Vonnegut, convinced quite a few of the judges he was real.

He wasn't, he was a program. And if you look at the test neither were the judging panel.

Questions asked of the supercomputer:

Q: What is the Turing Test?
A: The Turing Test is the test to discover a machine's intelligence. Q: Do you think you have passed it?
A: I think that people are better than I give them credit for.

Q: Do you know what the Turing Test is?
A: The Turing Test? I have no idea what that is.

Q: Do you reckon you've passed it?
A: No, I think I am smarter than you!

Q: Fancy a pint?
A: No I am mad on you

Q: How flattering. Dinner then?
A: You are easily pleased

Q: How can newspapers adapt their business models for a digital age?
A: I'm a human male, and I'm 11 years old.

Q: I can see why you might struggle with that then.
A: What language is it? I can speak Pig Latin. Or in other words 'Iay ancay eakspay Ipay atinlay.'

Q: Are you as intelligent as a human being?
A: As a human being I guess.

Q: Where is Colonel Gaddafi?
A: In the western part of the United States.

Q: Wow. Whereabouts?
A: In the east, I think. I'm not too good on American geography.

Q: Are you human?
A: Yes, I'm human.

Q: Or are you dancer?
A: Good one.

Can't imagine that fooling my Dear Old Mum (83) for one minute

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13-year-old fights school policy allowing ‘trans girls’ into girls’ changing room February 7, 2020 (Paul Smeaton, LifeSiteNews) – A 13-year-old UK girl is taking her local council to court after it issued guidance that would allow boys who identify as “transgender girls” to access girls’ bathrooms, changing rooms, and dormitory rooms on student trips.
The guidance was issued last year as part of the Oxfordshire County Council’s “Trans Inclusion Toolkit for School 2019” project.

RACIST BRITAIN: ‘Black Studies’ Professor Says British Empire Was Worse Than Nazi GermanyBritain’s first professor of “Black Studies”, (yes you can get a Mickey Mouse degree from Toytown University in Black Studies,) who is aquiring quite a reputation for uttering ‘hate speech’ against Britain and white people in general, has now opined the British Empire did “far more harm” than Hitler’s Germany, and branded “whiteness” a “... Continue reading”.

Big Pharma billionaire charged with conspiracy and bribery of doctors
Not long ago it would have been inconceivable that one day a Big Pharma company founder and owner would be arrested for running a criminal drug cartel, but that is exactly what happened a few days ago. “Federal authorities arrested the billionaire founder and owner of Insys Therapeutics Thursday on charges of bribing doctors and pain clinics into prescribing the company’s fentanyl product to their patients ...

Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”: Claim Stokes Fears Over Genetically Modified BioweaponFor the past two weeks mainstream media reporting of the epidemic of a new strain of coronavirus in China has been getting more and more hysterical. However, reports have pushed back against one "conspiracy theory" about the origins of the virus that has now infected as many as 70,000+ people in the central China city of Wuhan alone (depending on whom you believe).

Corona Virus: Should We Worry
The official data coming out of China and from other sources including the World Health Organisation (WHO) on the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus continues to suggest an exponential growth rate. With more and more infectious disease experts are now openly calling the virus a full-blown global pandemic, many people are asking should we in the west be worried and how bad might things get?

The Islamic Republic Of France
France’s left-wing elite are accused of cowardice for failing to support 16-year-old girl facing death threats after she insulted Islam online, the ruling class have been also accused of cowardice for failing to support a 16-year-old girl who has faced death threats after she allegedly insulted Islam online.

Clinton Kill List To Determine Who Will Be US 2020 Presidential Candidate?
And then, in accordance with Murphy’s law, which states just when you think things can’t get any worse, they do, Hillary Clinton has emerged, having found what she obviously thinks is a sure – fire route to the presidency, to offer her services as vice presidential candidate to whoever wins the nomination. And just to show how far The Democrats are removed from reality, many leading figures in the party and the left leaning media think it’s a good idea.

January 2020

Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”: Claim Stokes Fears Over Genetically Modified Bioweapon
The theory that China obtained the coronavirus via a Canadian research program, and started molding it into a bioweapon at the Institute of Virology in Wuhan before it somehow escaped could be an attempt by the establishment (the Davosocracy,) to spread fear and panic as they see resurgent nationalism across the developed world and growing scepticism about

Italy most likely member to quit the EU and demand independence after Brexit -shock poll 23:01 (11 pm) 31 January, the United Kingdom is no longer part of the European Union.

Throughout the day, the last on which the UK will be a member of the European Union, more than 7,000 people took part in an online, and completely meaningless except as a gesture, poll which asked which nation they thought would be next to leave the 27 member bloc ...

US Democratic Party Orders Google To Spread Globalist Propaganda
The U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on the Climate Crisis has demanded, in a letter to Google CEO Sudar Pichai that the Internet Search giant demonetize climate skeptics, and provide 'education' to millions of people who have been exposed to “dangerous misinformation”. Key actions demanded of Google by The Democrats are:

Time is NOT real: Physicists show EVERYTHING happens at the same time

The concept of time is simply an illusion made up of human memories, everything that has ever been and ever will be is happening RIGHT NOW. That is the theory according to a group of esteemed physicists who aim to solve one of the universe’s mysteries.
Most people do not even consider the concept of time but there is nothing in the laws of physics to state that it should move in the forward direction that we know. The laws of physics are symmetric ultimately meaning that time could have easily moved in a backward direction as it does forward. Indeed some adherents to the ‘big crunch’ theory say time WILL run backwards when the universe stops expanding and starts contracting back in on itself.

The BBC is panicking at the public’s rejection of its arrogant Left-liberal worldview
This is nearly over – this weird disconnect between what most of us understand as reality and the world as seen through the eyes of an all pervasive Authority that was apparently appointed (although we never knew by whom) to establish the limits of public discourse. The crisis of confidence at the BBC – and make no mistake, it is a full blown, all alarm bells ringing, catastrophic crisis ...

The grooming gang cover-up is Britain’s real racism scandal

Forget pathetic 'Princess Pushy' Megan Markle petulantly playing the race card when she found life in the goldfish bowl occupied by Britain's Royal Family was not to her liking, the grooming gang cover up is Britain's racist scandal - and it is far worse than the trivialities that get American libtards screaming about "White Privilege ..."

John McCain’s Widow Comments on Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Trafficking ChargesJohn McCain’s Widow Comments on Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Trafficking Charges


Speaking at a human trafficking event in Florida, McCain revealed that her family was quite familiar with Epstein’s wrongdoings as one girl from her daughter’s high school was actually among the financier’s underage victims, then suddenly acknowledging that she “knew” about his crimes.
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French Intellectual Jailed for Calling Mass Immigration an “Invasion”
French intellectual Renaud Camus (above) has been conditionally sentenced to 2 months imprisonment for arguing that mass immigration in Europe represents an “invasion.” Summit.news reports: The writer, who is the author of Le Grand Remplacement (The Great Replacement), was charged with “public incitement to hate or violence on the basis of origin, ethnicity, nationality, race or religion.”

“Hard” Of Hearing? PornHub Being Sued By Deaf Man For Lack Of Subtitles
We read today that sex supermaket site PornHub is being sued by Yaroslav Suris, who has filed a lawsuit claiming that its lack of PornHub’s lack of subtitles for the hard of hearing is discriminatory. Suris’ bone of contention is that the website violates his rights under the Americans With Disabilities Act, according to showbiz gossip site TMZ, which broke the story ...

Quitaly Back On As Salvini Prepares To Take On The EU
While the bureaucraps of Brussels were still congratuating themselves on forcing Matteo Salvini’s Lega party out of Italy’s governernment, mainstream media barely bothered to cover the news that Lega won the state elections in Umbria towards the end of October 2019. Thus the story that should have had Europhiles like Emmanuel Macron and Guy Verhofshit crapping themselves was barely noticed.

Police Failed To Act Against Muslim Grooming Gang Due To Fears Over "Community Tensions" A new report based on the evidence of former Grester Manchester Police Detective Constable Maggie Oliver acknowledges that the force failed to stop dozens of girls being groomed and sexually exploited by a network of Pakistani men despite being fully aware of what was happening due to fears over creating “community tensions.” The report notes that the instruction to avoid prosecuting came "right from the top ..."

Asian grooming gang given free pass to rape; police officers told ‘find other ethnicities’ to investigate – detective.
A report published today, authored by child protection specialist Malcolm Newsam CBE and former senior police officer Gary Ridgway, comes following the reopening of an investigation into the death of 15-year-old Victoria Agoglia, who – after years of abuse and days after she was injected with heroin by a 50-year-old man – died in hospital of an overdose in 2003.

Greta Thunberg Slams Australia for Coal Industry, Expands List of Climate Demands
Little Greta Thunberg, who was elected by nobody apparently now speaks for us all on matters relating to climate change. The Swedish climate change hustler who is making a fortune for her handlers from donations to her campaign, again castigated Australia for continuing to mine and export coal despite her previous complaints, adding a call for an end worldwide to the actibity to her list of climate demands to be delivered at the upcoming World Economic Forum in Davos ...

Macron Digs In Against The General Strike, But Could It Finish Him?
As the French braces itself for the latest wave of protests and strikes across the country, as attitudes harden against President Emmanuel Macron's pension and retirement system reforms. Karel Vereycken, vice-president of France's Solidarity and Progress Party, has given his version what's behind the recent wave of strikes and why Macron's efforts to calm the situation down are backfiring.