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All about Eve: A Rant About The Conservative War On Women Debunked


by Ian R Thorpe.

Is it a tenable argument to say that the US Republican Party (GOP) is weaging a war on women because they tried to block a clause in Obama's healthcare system that demands insurers fund free contraception for women? See the argument and then what as it is demolished

US Republicans Wage Waqr On Women

by Ian R Thorpe
4 March 2012
In an article "All about Eve: The Christian roots of the GOP War On Women by Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite the writer comments that :
"the US Senate has rejected the “Blunt amendment,” a controversial bill named for Senator Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) that would have that would allowed employers to opt out of health care coverage they disagreed with on “moral grounds.”

This defeat is not an end to the GOP (Republican) war on women, however. It is merely a skirmish in what looks to be a protracted struggle for women’s freedom and dignity in this country. This attack on women is, and I am grieved to say it, driven by a particular Christian theological perspective that denigrates women and holds them responsible for sin, particularly sexual sin.

GOP politics today is, in fact, all about Eve.

The GOP war on women will continue precisely because of the conservative Christian theology that drives wedge politics in a campaign season has a fundamental contempt for women and their equal dignity and worth. As the Southern Baptist Convention voted in 1984, “[M]an was first in creation and the woman was first in the Edenic fall.” In conservative Christian eyes, women are the evil temptresses, the sinner “Eves” who lead the gullible Adams astray, especially sexually. Therefore they are “first” in sin, i.e. it’s women’s fault that men get kicked out of the Garden of Eden.

There are “softer” forms of this view of women as sexual temptresses, as in John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter on women, where Mary is the “new Eve.” Women’s “femininity” earns them love, but the implication is clearly only if they stay “Mary,” the good mother, and don’t wander over into the independence of “Eve.” Eve, of course, is the sexual face of women in these theological perspectives. The message is “good women” don’t do that.

The real underbelly of these views of women as the sexual temptress “Eve” was on display in a recent Rush Limbaugh statement. Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown University student whom House Republicans would not let testify at the Issa hearings, a “slut” and a “prostitute” for wanting to testify of the need for birth control to be covered by insurance. It is clarifying for the intensity of this denigration of women to remember that Fluke’s testimony for birth control was about a friend who is a lesbian and needs the pill for medical reasons.

The “Blunt amendment” was also called the “conscience” amendment as it was billed by its supporters as about “religious freedom.” The use of the term “conscience” about this bill that is an attack on women’s health care is very revealing. The religious conservatives who now dominate GOP politics do not think that women have consciences, or are entitled to religious freedom, as the statements of Rep. Issa on why he was justified in calling an all-male panel to discuss women’s health care. It’s about “religious freedom and conscience” not birth control, said Issa. So, no women allowed?

In the “Eve the temptress” theology of conservative Christianity, women don’t have consciences apparently.

The GOP’s war on women, fueled as it is by the “Eve the temptress” theology is losing them votes, as Rick Santorum has recently discovered in the gender gap in voting.

Click here for original post All about Eve or carry on reading a libertarian's response to this typically over simplified leftist rant angaint a synthetic demon. Ian R Thorpe in demolidhing the arguement shows how the left's kneee jerk reactions on any issues conected with minorities rights completely misses the target.

The I think this needs to be widened out to refer to the war on women waged by the Abrahamic religions. And it is not confined to the Abrahamic religions.

To understand the ancient origins of this abhorrence of female sexuality it is necessary to look beyond the Bible and read the pagan myths of the Persians, Assyrians, Zoroastrians and of the Hindus, Celts and Goths. In most of these, the earlier ones especially humans are created by splitting in half the being of a superannuated god. From the two halves of the old god the first man and woman emerge.

The first woman in the Jewish tradition (which is really quite modern compared with the others) is Lilith. According to Assyrian texts which did not make it to The Bible, Lilith was the consort of god (like Hera to Zeus or Istar to Marduk) but also usually his sister.

The symbolic language of myths is very open to subjective interpretation but the usual interpretation of this is it refers in ways we assume the ancients could not have understood to the fact that either male or female come can from the same origin.

An interesting aspect of this set of myths is best understood from the Zoroastrian creation myth. In that story creation begins when Ormazd says "Jah", (I am)

My interpretation of that is the dawning of human consciousness, the point our ancestors began to see themselves in relation to each other and to their world (the jump from homo sapiens, man who knows to homo sapiens sapiens, man who knows he knows.

The paternalism and male superiority don't kick in until about 600 BC, a time when fundamental changes kicked in for many ancient cultures. It is after this female sexuality becomes vilified and women's' status diminished.

If people understand their religions properly they cannot so easily be ruled by fear.

Feminists along with other "progressives" need to be a little more honest and less prejudiced about their choice of targets. It is dishonest to talk of the religious - conservative war on women, I know there are many atheist conservatives in the USA.

This type of generalisation can lead into all sorts of minefields. I was in a discussion at another site last week in which I highlighted the fact that private abortion clinics in the UK are performing abortions for the purpose of sex selection, and yes you guessed it, the overwhelming proportion of foetuses in such abortions are female. Now this is against the law in the UK. But the overwhelming majority of parents seeking the termination of girl children are from just two ethnic and cultural backgrounds.

For the left however it is a women's rights issue. They defend a woman's right to choose to this ridiculous and morally repugnant length.

Do the feminists really think that women would agree to abort their potential daughters because boys are preferable unless they were subjected to great pressure from husbands, other male relatives and preachers? Do the left, for all their screaming about equality really believe it is right and proper that women should be their husband's chattel? Do they? Or are the left so brainwashed by the dogma's of political correctness they just start whining before they have though through their position.

Because of fear of the politically correct lobby the authorities have turned a blind eye to this abuse for many years and it has fallen to a conservative newspaper to expose the situation. Their line is not anti abortion but that the law must apply equally to everybody. And the democratically enacted law in the UK, accepted by the huge majority of people, says we do not use abortion as a means of sex selection in any circumstances. No exceptions, that's the law.
Simples.

Soon after posting the article there was an attempt to brand me a right wing nut job who wanted to ban abortion and contraception and enslave women. (Actually I'm an anarchist in the truest sense.) It was the kind of hate driven and bigoted attack I have come to expect from the left. As usual however the person leading the attack shot himself in the foot. By trying to brand me a woman hating fascist he was actually advocating the genocide of women.

I was too polite to ask him if he approved of the "dying room" system of aborting girls after a live birth as used in China.

Actually I'm lying, I was saving that one for a follow up post.

Another remark aimed at me was that contraception is very expensive and hard to obtain in the USA and I cannot understand the problem because healthcare is free in Britain. This is not just wrong it is idiotically wrong. We, except the very poor and those unable to work, pay National Insurance Contributions which are deducted from wages. This amounts to 10% of earnings and covers healthcare and pensions.

People not exempted on grounds that they are unemployed, disabled or low earners must pay a set fee for prescriptions including for contraceptive pills. The prescription charge is approx £7. This is not by any stretch of the imagination free. Things are similar elsewhere in the EU, Australia and Canada.

So in fact the Obama administration is out on a limb in trying to make the USA the only nation in the world to provide birth control free, courtesy of Nanny State. Public opinion in most places holds that people don't want the government in their bedroom.

Yes, this area is a minefield and it's difficult to step around one mine without stepping on another. It is simply too wild a generalisation to talk of a war on women.

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This is nearly over – this weird disconnect between what most of us understand as reality and the world as seen through the eyes of an all pervasive Authority that was apparently appointed (although we never knew by whom) to establish the limits of public discourse. The crisis of confidence at the BBC – and make no mistake, it is a full blown, all alarm bells ringing, catastrophic crisis ...

The grooming gang cover-up is Britain’s real racism scandal

Forget pathetic 'Princess Pushy' Megan Markle petulantly playing the race card when she found life in the goldfish bowl occupied by Britain's Royal Family was not to her liking, the grooming gang cover up is Britain's racist scandal - and it is far worse than the trivialities that get American libtards screaming about "White Privilege ..."

John McCain’s Widow Comments on Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Trafficking ChargesJohn McCain’s Widow Comments on Jeffrey Epstein’s Sex Trafficking Charges


Speaking at a human trafficking event in Florida, McCain revealed that her family was quite familiar with Epstein’s wrongdoings as one girl from her daughter’s high school was actually among the financier’s underage victims, then suddenly acknowledging that she “knew” about his crimes.
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French Intellectual Jailed for Calling Mass Immigration an “Invasion”
French intellectual Renaud Camus (above) has been conditionally sentenced to 2 months imprisonment for arguing that mass immigration in Europe represents an “invasion.” Summit.news reports: The writer, who is the author of Le Grand Remplacement (The Great Replacement), was charged with “public incitement to hate or violence on the basis of origin, ethnicity, nationality, race or religion.”

“Hard” Of Hearing? PornHub Being Sued By Deaf Man For Lack Of Subtitles
We read today that sex supermaket site PornHub is being sued by Yaroslav Suris, who has filed a lawsuit claiming that its lack of PornHub’s lack of subtitles for the hard of hearing is discriminatory. Suris’ bone of contention is that the website violates his rights under the Americans With Disabilities Act, according to showbiz gossip site TMZ, which broke the story ...

Quitaly Back On As Salvini Prepares To Take On The EU
While the bureaucraps of Brussels were still congratuating themselves on forcing Matteo Salvini’s Lega party out of Italy’s governernment, mainstream media barely bothered to cover the news that Lega won the state elections in Umbria towards the end of October 2019. Thus the story that should have had Europhiles like Emmanuel Macron and Guy Verhofshit crapping themselves was barely noticed.

Police Failed To Act Against Muslim Grooming Gang Due To Fears Over "Community Tensions" A new report based on the evidence of former Grester Manchester Police Detective Constable Maggie Oliver acknowledges that the force failed to stop dozens of girls being groomed and sexually exploited by a network of Pakistani men despite being fully aware of what was happening due to fears over creating “community tensions.” The report notes that the instruction to avoid prosecuting came "right from the top ..."

Asian grooming gang given free pass to rape; police officers told ‘find other ethnicities’ to investigate – detective.
A report published today, authored by child protection specialist Malcolm Newsam CBE and former senior police officer Gary Ridgway, comes following the reopening of an investigation into the death of 15-year-old Victoria Agoglia, who – after years of abuse and days after she was injected with heroin by a 50-year-old man – died in hospital of an overdose in 2003.

Greta Thunberg Slams Australia for Coal Industry, Expands List of Climate Demands
Little Greta Thunberg, who was elected by nobody apparently now speaks for us all on matters relating to climate change. The Swedish climate change hustler who is making a fortune for her handlers from donations to her campaign, again castigated Australia for continuing to mine and export coal despite her previous complaints, adding a call for an end worldwide to the actibity to her list of climate demands to be delivered at the upcoming World Economic Forum in Davos ...

Macron Digs In Against The General Strike, But Could It Finish Him?
As the French braces itself for the latest wave of protests and strikes across the country, as attitudes harden against President Emmanuel Macron's pension and retirement system reforms. Karel Vereycken, vice-president of France's Solidarity and Progress Party, has given his version what's behind the recent wave of strikes and why Macron's efforts to calm the situation down are backfiring.