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Dr. Strangelove's Secret Weapon
As the science versus faith debate revs up again it seems a good time to bring back online dome of the posts on Little Nicky Machiavelli blog in which a logician challenged those who would elevate science to the status of a religion. In this post, Dr. Strangelove's Secret bacon Butty Weapon the argument in the main post and related comment thread centres on a report published by scientists which was so shoddily written and presented even an averagly intelligent person with no interest in food science could blow it apart. As usual the scientific community then blamed misreporting by the media for the inadequacies in their work.


Dr. Strangeloves Secret Bacon Butty Weapon.
by Ian R Thorpe
2007-11-04

Those harbingers of misery, the clinical research laboratory technicians or scientists as they like to style themselves, The Dr. Strangloves of medical science are busy peddling their misinformation and disinformation, or research results as they like to call it, again. Having kept up their 100% record for talking utter arse dribble last month with warnings on hazardous drinking (actually moderate alcohol consumption which is good for us) and how even thinking about having a cheese sandwich increases a womans risk of breast cancer by ninety nine million percent, they are now directing their attention towards our bacon sandwiches,. Is no British institution safe from these people as they target our dietary habits.

Their five year mission (sorry, scrub that I wouldnt want to give the impression these people are sad obsessive geeks who spend all their time in laboratories molesting small furry animals and get together once a year to celebrate Mr. Spocks birthday) their mission as they see it is to make everyone live forever. Their approach is to make life so boring we will not live forever but it will seem as if we have. If we heeded the warnings, everything that makes eating pleasurable would have been removed from our tables by now.

The problem with the Governments letting these nerds off the leash is that because the warnings are general rather than selective, nobody takes any notice. We all know that what is going on is the manufacture by a government intent on privatising the National Health Service, of excuses for denying people treatment in publicly funded hospitals. Unfortunately due to this and to the ineptitude of civil servants in all aspects of PR, the warnings are going unheeded by the people who need to heed them. Instead of mumbling about obesity and the discredited Body Mass Index ( BMI - this is the method of measuring obesity that showed Lynford Christie and Lennox Lewis at the height of their careers were both clinically obese yeah, right.) why not show pictures of a hugely overweight couple and their overweight kids and caption it Mr & Mrs Too Fat To Wipe and their family. That would bang the message home. Forget the effing Body Mass Index, check the mirror. Love handles are OK, saddle bags are a no no.

The Strangelove boys will never get their heads round such effective ways of communicating, quite simply they cannot communicate with organisms more complex than lab rats. The idea that human beings are all individuals who think for ourselves and make our own decisions is beyond their understanding. And we understand that we all die of something and the choices we make may effect that.

But if the choice is between a couple of years extra tagged on to the incontinent, demented, non ambulatory end of our lives or a tasty breakfast now, bring on the bacon butties.

No doubt the dull witted denizens of the Bad Science forum, followers of thick boy science guru Ben Goldacre will be anxious to remind me that as I am not a scientist I cannot understand these things and merely react emotionally to the hysterical misrepresentations of the media. Well as usual I looked up the reports and they are written to give the impression that eating red meat three or more times a week is a critical factor in the development of intestinal cancers. The statistics used in the report however show that if there is any critical factor it is simply old age.

The key to writing these reports is to use language with such precision they cannot be spun. A high level of red meat and particularly processed meats in the diet, combined with other lifestyle and environmental factors may contribute to the development of certain cancers. There is a science to language you see. Unfortunately scientifically precise language is never going to be sensational and hysterical enough to attract any big fat research grants, which is the real purpose of all these reports.

Before I move on to politics, economics and corporate fascism, kudos to the guys who won the Nobel Physics prize this year for their work on giant magneto resistance. Absolutely fascinating stuff, bordering on the mystical in fact, and an evolution from a technology I helped develop during my career. Got that Bad Science Forum thick boys. Science is a big church, we all have our specialities and only those who are wannabees would refer to themselves with characteristic lack of precision as scientists.

COMMENTS:
We cannot show the entire comment thread but reprint a selection of comments and replies. Please note; it is impossible to contact most commenteras as they post anonymously therefore we assume the right to reprint and edit comments. As a matter of policy The Daily Stirrer does not alter the essential meaning of comments. Sometimes however it is necessary to remove repetition of the same point over and over again. FROM: sallyontour
2007-11-04
I will be giving up eating altogether as it obviously isn't good for me.

I am also concerned about dying of natural causes. Too many people are dying from natural causes and there seems to be no research being carried out on this.

FROM:
Bendygirl (Visitor)
2007-11-07
I thought this was hilarious...especially as someone who lives on red meat, potatoes and er, quite alot of chocolate (hmm, like didn't we evolve eating meat and er vegetation?) and takes huge amounts of abuse for having the supposedly socially desireable figure I now feel justified. I'm going to die early missing out on all that awful end of life stuff. Oh and I get to continue to be abused for being thin in the interim. Ain't life grand. Bring on the bacon!!!

FROM:
William Thompson (Visitor)
2007-11-08

When you were reading the reports did you too spot the flaw in the way the story has been reported by the media? That the actual harmful components are the nitrates and other preservatives added during the process, and that it is not actually the meat which is harmful. This is why your grandparents were able to survive on a diet of bacon and beef with no ill effects - the harmful additions are the result of western demands for off the shelf goods. Were you to import your pig based goods from a farmer in Brussels then there would be no harmful effects. Furthermore the risk in the story was vastly overhyped as was discussed in the comment is free section of the Guardian. In short, the scientists on the bad science forum seem to agree that this story was a piece of crap and view it in the same light as you have done. This story is not Science and is poor Journalism that contributes to the visceral hatred of scientists in society and that you so clearly show in this article.

REPLY FROM Little Nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-08

As we buy all our meats from the organic butcher in Downham I could not possibly comment.

The flaw however was not in the way the findings were reported but in the way they were presented.

"Visceral hatred of scientists" is a ridiculoous notion. I despise boy - scientists, immature young men who think that styling themseloves "scientists" places them above criticism. And I have a very low opinion of the R&D side of medicine to which most followers of the Bad Science Forum seem to belong.

But in my career I had the privilege to work with some brilliant scientists; physicists, chemists, mathematicians, logicinans, engineers and statisticians.

The reasons I and so many others go for the throats of the clinical reseach community are:
The way they have hijacked the word scientists.
The fact that they do not truly understand what a science is.
The sloppy standards in the way information is presented.

Had I or any of my former colleagues presented the toxic bacon project there would have ben no possibility of misrepresentation. It would have been quite clearly and unmisakably a denunciation of the food processing industry.
But of course the big players in food processing are part of the big pharma conglomerates who fund so much clinical research.

So if you Bad Science boys want people to stop attacking you, you must:
Learn to read properly
Develop a sense of humour
Stop adopting such a patronising tone when "revealing" to your elders and betters stuff we have known for decades.
Summon up enough integrity to bite the hands that feed you.

Incidentally you are wrong. It is not the nitrates that do the damage (though they don't help,) but too much meat and not enough fibre. Our grandparents ate much less meat (red or white) than most of us do, and filled up on potates, roots, pulses and grains and leaf vegetables.

If you want to argue with me, do at least try to get the simple things right.

FROM:
GD (Visitor)
2007-11-11

I agree, the guts of a human are not really evolved to eat large quantities of meat, unlike true carnivores. The villi in the human bowel protrude more and slow the passage of meat, to the point where it can actually decay rather than digest. It is likely to be this that releases carcinogens.

There's some highly emotive accusations in there though Ian, a lot of statements, which in themselves are not persuasive. Almost too many to quote. Why do you think your age qualifies you to say what science truly is?

REPLY FROM:
Little nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-11

I don't think age qualifies us to do anything except die eventually. Its the emotional and intellectual immaturity of the boy - scientists that makes winding them up so rewarding.

It is not necessary for these people to say they believe science is God for it to become clear that is the case.

Why do I wind them up? Because some time ago when I asked quite simply why the medical establishment shouts down any attempt to open a sensible debate on the issue of a possible link between autism and the MMR vaccine, these boys ganged up on me, yelling in unison about Wakefield's failed research (which I had not mentioned) when in fact that is only a side issue.

The boy scientists then tried to patronise me by saying that I "cannot understand scientific methodology" because I am "not as scientist." Which only proved they don't really know what science means. Or anything about me.

Of course my age and the rather elitist education I had did give me a deep understanding of the English language. Thus I am equipped to instantly spot that the boy scientists are not very adept at expressing themselves in clear and precise terms. Pretty much an essential skill for scientists I would say.

You mention emotive accusations. Yes, emotive is what I do. Like the other supporters of the boy scientist tendency who visit, you fail to understand this is a popular and populist blog written to appeal to its broad audience. Why to you all give the impression that you feel I am breaking the rules by ridiculing the follies of scientists in populist terms. Why should I effect an attitude of intellectual detachment to suit my targets. Why do scientists always seek to dicate the terms of the debate?

But I only ridicule those who style themselves "scientists" when their main talent lies in a preternatural ability to state the obvious. The real scientists who pursue worthwhile projects, those seeking ways to combat climate change of obtain energy from non polluting sources I am always ready to praise.

Now you know my terms for debate here, if you want to debate please continue. But comments will only remain on the Little Nicky Machiavelli platform if they can be understood by recreational readers. It is not a scientific blog or forum.

My blog, My Rules.

REPLY FROM: GD (Visitor)
2007-11-11
I see, so this is mainly a way of letting off steam and righting the injustice of being ganged up on by a bunch of boys?

Debate is such an ugly word, at least it has become so. The internet is a marvellous thing, but sometimes it seems that anything termed a "debate" in an online context is little more than spleen venting. I have no wish to "debate" with anybody.

I think I can see where the animosity springs from, but nobody likes to be told their chosen field is an open pitch for any Tom, Dick or Harry to play upon. They say scientists make poor communicators it is often so. Do those skilled in communicating make poor scientists? Not necessarily, but defining someone's profession for them is sure to raise hackles. A tricky issue, however. I agree that those who practice science have a duty to inform others in a non-patronising way. In turn, we have a duty to try to understand what we are hearing, and not belittle the skills of those who would inform us.

As far as I am aware, the autism debate has raged for several years, and the matter is all but closed (why I have the spontaneous urge to duck at this moment, I cannot say).

Most scientists tend not to give a damn about so called Philosophy of Science, and get on with the practical side of things. All considered, this is for the best. I'm not sure I know what you mean about anyone assuming science is "God." It is generally understood that all knowledge is inferred, not absolute, and there is much that science will not be able to touch.

But then, I'm am not the practical kind of person that makes a good scientist, and I do dabble in ideals and philosophies.

It worries me to see cardboard cut-outs of science being set up to be knocked down. I have no particular issue with emotive quips in particular, I just could not understand what impact these were supposed to have on the diffuse and multifarious body that is science in this modern age? Perhaps more about what science IS, rather than is not, would be enlightening. All these negatives are like punches thrown at the empty air.

Still, this is indeed your blog, and as I said, I am not here to argue. I wish you the very best,
GD

REPLY FROM: Little Nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-12

Ah, you're not one of them. I should explain then that my anti - "scientists" posts here refer to "scientists" or boy-scientists and not scientists in general. A subtle distinction maybe, but important.

It all stems from an orginginal post in which I raised the question of the MMR / Autism issue and the way the medical establisment try to quash all discussion. I made particular reference to someone who, under the name Ben Goldacre who writes the Bad Science column in The Guardian. In this, as well as setting himself up as a debunker of "Bad Science" (mostly transparent cons that have been around for years) he returns to the autism / MMR issue every time it hits the news, dismissing the people who are asking very reasonable questions as superstitious and victims of association fallacy.

When I raised the question of Autism / MMR instead of posting a reasoned argument Goldacre (using another false name) loftily told me I should be aware that the latin phrase "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (before therefore because of) is the foundation of most fallacious thinking.

Now it a long time since I learned Latin but I would say that what he was groping for was "post hoc non ergo propter hoc." (after, not therefore because of) is a caveat againt jumping to conclusions.

But had he not jumped to the conclusion that I was "not a scientist" because I questioned something he thought was proven beyond all doubt? And did he not also jump to a dangerous conclusion in asuming that a non scientist could not understand what he described as "the basis of scientific enquiry." (I'm sure my former colleagues in the nuclear energy agencies and the computer industry would be surprised to hear that)To make much sense, Goldacre's key phrase needs to be stated in English as "correlation does not necessarily prove causation." Prove is the important word. When an event occurs after anothr there is no reason to suppose it is significant. When the two things repeatedly happen consequentially it is reasonable to ask if they are linked.

Then of course there is the question of not confusing correlation with cause and effect. Its all too much for boy - scientists like young Ben so he just takes refuge in technical jargon and starts sneering at his critics.

"Science is God" is a reference to Goldacre's repeated assertions (inspired by an imperfect understanding of Dawkins I guess) that religious faith is superstition and any suggestion that there are still mysteries we are nowhere near solving are just "magical thinking." He cannot see that his devotion to science, whatever science is in his mind, is as irrational as that of a religious fundamentalist to the dogmas of their faith. I feel Dawkins fails to make clear that he is writing about fundamentalist faith.

I am not religious but do acknowledge the power of belief as self belief (OK, some would say arrogance) steered me back to a good quality of life after a brain haemorrhage that Doctors initially thought would leave me in a near vegetative state. I did learn from talking to very good medical scientists about my recovery which they describe as quite remarkable, that neurologists and related disciplines are coming to understand the human mind is the greatest unsolved mystery in our civilisation.

I know the boys at the Bad Science Forum watch me to see what I am saying about them so my more immoderate posts are for their benefit and the amusement of my friends.

BTW its a pleasure to come across somebody who appreciates the philosophical aspect of scientific enqiry. I reciprocate your good wishes and hope you understand now that I refer to "scientists" or boy-scientists to indicate I am not including in my criticism the many competent, dedicated and non - egomaniacal people whose work is in applying the various scientific disciplines.

GD (Visitor)
2007-11-13

Ian,

I have a passing familiarity with most of what you have spoken about. Not with ancient Latin, but I have encountered the terms used for those types of logical fallacy before. Looking them up again, to be certain, first on Encylopedia Britanica then Wikipedia (as I don't have full access to E I noticed that, on this matter at least, Ben Goldacre appears not to have been groping. Post hoc ergo proptor hoc (essentially, what follows is caused by what comes before) is the term used when this logic is applied in error. That seems rather back-to-front, actually, but there we have it.

The autism debate has passed in the background for me as I understand it, the age of onset does happen to be at a similar age to when a child is typically vaccinated, making straightforward correlation hard to analyse. I assume the debate gets a good deal more complex than this, but on that matter at least, it would seem no conclusion can be drawn.

As for Ben Goldacre, well, I've read his articles. I tend to check the BBC, the Guardian and the Times for news (not a complete cross-section, I know) so I've obviously come across him. I actually wrote him an e-mail once, to question some minor point he made, and his reply, though brief, was not particularly discourteous. Indeed, he directed me to some rather difficult scientific literature, without a hint that he would consider it above my abilities as a lay-person.

One of my personal interests is in people who are making an effort to bring science closer to the public understanding, and make an effort to counterbalance its misrepresentation in the media. For this reason, I am an enthusiast of Feynman, Sagan, and more recently Dawkins, whom you mention. His science writing is fabulous, and the lecture he gave as part of the TED Talks series (available on-line), entitled "Queerer Than We Can Suppose" is absolutely inspiring. There is a scientist who understands the vast implications of the human quest for knowledge (and it's limits, and some inkling of what lies beyond).

I would have to disagree with you, about your contention that Dawkins only means to criticise fundamentalist faith. Truth be told, he is rather harsh towards religious faith in general, suggesting that even moderate faith is the slippery slope that leads to irrationality and extremism, to gullibility and "magical thinking." This is one area I where I do not entirely approve of Dawkin's take on things as I am prepared to accept that a modest religious faith, held with a certain degree of willingness to re-examine one's position, is probably harmless and even beneficial on a personal level.

His latest documentaries, "The Enemies of Reason," extend his efforts to overcome general misconceptions about the scientific quest for knowledge beyond religion and into other areas where less than rational attitudes are commonplace. There are some parallels between Dawkins and what Badscience seems to be about the most notable being a shared incredulousness for homeopathy.

As I say, I am but an interested lay-person, and I do not share your personal reasons for feeling embattled by any of these parties. I can only assume some past tragedy has left you with powerful emotions concerning the autism issue?

Thank you for explaining the distinction you make between different kinds of attitudes to science as a visitor to your site it was not immediately obvious and at first I was concerned by this apparent aggression toward scientific endeavour, which , so far as I am able to tell, is responsible for much that is admirable about this modern world and has played no small part in the humanising of our society, the transition from the once cloistered authority of feudal religious rule.

I still worry that other casual readers of your blog may not immediately discern the subtle distinction you are making, and leave with an inappropriately negative sense of science in general.

But you have been engaging and courteous with me, and made an effort to clear up that misunderstanding, so I am not overly concerned.

Best regards,
GD

REPLY FROM:
Little nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-15

As you say, the Wikipedia translation is rather garbled and an example od sloppy thinking as what follows is often caused by what happened before. Its a question of deciding what, of the many things that happen before an event, is connected.

Fred, in the stand, bit into his pie and Rooney hammered the ball into the net. Obviously these events are not connected.

Giggs passed the ball to Rooney, Rooney hammered it into the back of the net. This is an example of connected events.

Anyone who learned programming in the 1970s when it was about logic rather than skills at cutting and pasting is very familiar with that kind of distinction.

But as a couple of others have suggested I might be giving the wrong impression of my attitude to the sciences, I'll write a post setting out exactly where I stand and showing that historically at least, interest in the arts or humanities and science are not mutually exclusive. It will also show why the narrow view of science promoted by the Ben Goldacre school of thought has resulted in us having a surfeit of graphic design and media studies grads and a shortage of engineers.

FROM: William Thompson (Visitor)
2007-11-14

I very much doubt that Ben has ever even read this blog let alone posted on it, his site is not hosted on blog.co.uk, but is instead hosted on a dedicated server to handle the thousands of hits per day. He is also not the sort to use 'other names'.

Let me get this straight, a boy scientist is somebody who tells you that you can't understand a scientific report? One person did this (who may not even have been a professional scientist or have any experience in the field) but you write off 95% of biomedical researchers as morons, nice.

There were a lot of people who came to your site after you posted in the guardian debate, some of them attempted to engage in a debate and try to persuade you, others were pratt's, you get this everywhere on the internet. I think it is unfair to claim that every reader of Goldacres site is intellectually and emotionally imature because a lot of people followed a link from comment is free (which Ben doesn't even post in - he only posts on Badscience!)

regarding communication; it is incredibly difficult to convey 15 years of intense study to someone whose familiarity with biological science ended with a CSE 25 years ago (this is in regards to the public at large rather than you specifically). In my field there are a good deal of facets, caveats and a huge amount of accumulated knowledge which is necessary to even begin to discuss some of the simplest priciples involved, how can you even begin to communicate that to someone who barely cares in less than 5 minutes? Scientists are frequently excellent communicators, but in technical matters we are barely speaking the same language. As Terry Pratchett said, a language which evolved to talk about where the best fruit and berries are found is ill equipped to discuss the motions and effects of subatomic particles.

The public refuse to accept 'because we told you so' (and rightly so) but simmilarly refuse to spend the time doing the background research to find out why, they want a quick easy to understand answer which is true and will never be changed. Science doesn't work like this.

I have for a long time been apalled at the refusal of the public to accept evidence no matter how well scientists explain it.

Cancer clusters are one of the most often discussed examples, the public will frequently refuse to accept anything that statisticans tell them, choosing to believe gut instinct over science.

Mobile phone masts are an emotive example of this; extensive well conducted studies confirm that there is no effect yet joe public knows better... 10 people get cancer in 5 years since a mast was installed, they are 10 different types of cancer, 6 of them were in their 80's, 2 have previously been in remission 4 of them were heavy smokers. Hopefully you can see that there is not a real correlation between these people but the daily mail and its ilk whip it up into a huge story....Mast of death kills war hero... etc.

The same thing basically happened with the Autism link, the overwhelming proponderence of evidence against a link means that most scientists (including BG) have got bored of it, many of us see little point in continuing to debate with people what has been established to a near certainty.

In effect we as scientists have become cynical on this issue, believing that anybody who is not convinced is never going to be convinced and the best thing is to ignore those that continue to talk about it. The last time BG wrote about this was in regards to a scare story in the Observer which was found to be so innacurate that it was withdrawn.

There are no reasonable questions left regarding the link, all that is left are a lot of tragic stories of children developing autism - yes this is harrowing, yes science doesn't know why, but no, it has nothing to do with MMR, and continuing to spend money researching a link which does not exist is futile to the point that it is detracting from research into understanding and curing Autism.

You mentioned industrial funding as an issue you have with scientists, it is one that scientists also take very seriously. David Colquhoun (professor of Pharmacology and a FRS - surely a scientist worthy of some respect) writes about this in his blog. http://dcscience.net/?p=193 . 'Good' scientists are all too happy to bite the hand that feeds, many of us (myself included) have turned down industrial funding simply to avoid being tarred with the same brush.

It is the result of Tony Blairs insistance on Universities seeking industrial backing for projects that is partly to blame for all this, if we can't get government grants then scientists are forced to find industrial sponsers. Indeed had Wakefield been more ready to bite the hand that feeds the entire Autism / MMR link would never have happened.

Another side to this is that a Scientist could develop a drug to cure cancer but testing and other costs of bringing it to market are way beyond what a university can afford, once again it is necessary to turn to industry to actually cure the people of cancer.

Final points:
I wish that you would learn to recognise in others posts language devices you emplOy in yours, Of course I know about the food in the past, I have an excellent sense of humour and had great fun when you got so upset about being called a eugenicist - in both cases I was exagerating for the sake of making a point.

I have read everything just fine thanks, I might occasionally do as you seem to do and intentionally mis-interpret what you write for fun...

with respect to this bacon paper the fault lies with the press rep who translated a scientific paper into a press release for media consumption. Scientific journals are intended for other scientists - not lay people. This is not to say that a non-scientist couldn't or shoudn't read them (I would be delighted if non-scientists were reading my papers) but they may well struggle or mis-intepret the paper as the reader will not have the accumulated knowledege etc. This is a huge problem and is the cause of a considerable degree of tension between science and the public. A scientist might discover one thing but a press officer wants to grab headlines and turns it into something else, the reporter has no scientific training and publishes the press release without reading it.

Scientists are trained (and paid by the tax payer) to think deeply about the mysteries of the universe, not to write press releases. If you would rather scientists were chosen not on their ability to do science but on their ability to write headline grabbing press relases....

REPLY FROM:
Little Nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-15 @ 17:28:22

Gotcha.
Its little things that give people away William.

But I wonder why would the Bad Science site need a dedicated server to handle thousands of hits per day. An entry level server (around 60 to 70 per month) would handle millions of hits an hour.

The bottleneck is the communications interface and even so, an 8Mb/sec link running at around 60% capacity (on average the best that can really be hoped for on copper unless you are next door to the exchange) would deliver around 5 million page impressions (average based on typical loadings on UK servers, actual depends on page sizes) per day for a site that is mainly text and still images. Those calculation cannot not take account of variable conditions on the web so those figures are designed to give an indication of capacity only.

Science is a big tent. I know you boys are all a tad obsessive but you should realise there are many fields each with their own areas of expertise.

Actually I thought it was philosophers who thought deeply about the mysteries of the Universe. Astrophysicists study the nature of stars and astrologers study their bank balances.

Back to your clinical research my lad and if you have any contact with Goldacre tell him not to stray into areas he does not understand, like WiFi networks; and to try and understand there is a world of difference between scientific evidence obtained under CONTROLLED conditions and stuff that happens in the real world.

Homeopathy works, I have no idea how, maybe it is simply a placebo effect, but ALL the people who swear by it are not deluded, superstitious fools so their testimony IS evidence.

REPLY FROM
William Thompson (Visitor)
2007-11-15

Gotcha what? you looked like you were on the verge of demonstrating a rational understanding of the world so I made one long post, compare that to the number (and length) you made crying about being a eugenicist.

Or is it that you figured out that I'm a scientist, its not like I covered it up, in that last post there were hardly 'little' things to give me away so much as huge arrows.

I have no idea about any of that stuff about networks, but Ben's hosting told him that he was overloading them and that he had to go to a dedicated server. A company dedicated to promoting science on the internet hosted him.

I have absolutely no contact with Ben, I read his blog but his forums are a pointless circle jerk.

"Actually I thought it was philosophers who thought deeply about the mysteries of the Universe"

Weren't you arguing a few posts ago that science and philosophy were essentially the same thing?

Also I don't do 'clinical' research, I'm generally opposed to revealing information on the internet so I'm not going to say more than that, biomedical does not equal clinical.

I think its pretty funny that in one paragraph you demonise astrology and in the next praise homeopathy. I know people who swear the earth is flat ( http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum// ) so their testimony IS evidence.

If you are trying to wind me up with homeopathy you are onto a loser, I spend some time reading blogs and forums from people (practicing homeopaths) who are real 'true believers', if I'm gonna attempt to make anybody see the light on that issue its them.

I am interested to read your ideas on why Ben's view of science is narrow minded, please read this ( http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/10/the_appeal_to_b.html ) as it contains many of the arguments that the 'boy scientists' raise regarding their 'view' of science.

REPLY FROM: Little Nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-19

Actually the earth is flat. Its a physical sphere but a logical plane.

If at this point you don't slap your forehead and say "fuck me, of course" you aren't really equipped to comment on my posts... but I knew that anyway and so did most oif my readers including a Physics PhD and a Maths M.A.

I was aware of the flatearth website, its good fun but I think you take it too literally. The bloke who writes the skeptiko website suffers from the same kind of tunnel vision as Ben Goldacre.

William Thompson (Visitor)
2007-11-20

Yes, very clever, not so much a slap on the forehead as a groan at the end of a bad joke. Though it might be fun to argue that with the flatearth deniers.

Perhaps this ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/mick_hume/article2902866.ece ) goes some way to argue more eloquently than I can how science as portrayed by the media has essentially become a quick justification for restrictive governement policy.

It is not tunnel visioned to reject a hypothesis which scientific investigation has shown to be invalid, I remain puzzled as to how Skeptico / BG are tunnel vissioned.

Little Nicky Machiavelli
2007-11-20

How are they tunnel visioned? Same way as you are William, none of you can see the big picture.

And as you clearly do not understand that the earth is a physical sphere but a logical plane, you never will. Nor will you ever really know where you are. That means the earth is round in reality but flat in logical terms. Sorry I can't make it simpler for you.

As for skeptico I saw his argument against ID. But he had not troubled to find out what the intelligent design theory really is, he just took the US Fundamentalist version and argued against that because it is easy wheras arguing against the real theory is hard. Even Dawkins has admitted he cannot refute it, but similarly it can never be proved.

There is less "evidence" for the big bang than for the book of Genesis.

Nobody truly understands gravity or electricity or light, yet all of these defy the established laws of physics.

See, you boy scientists just play with baby toys. And still you haven't a clue.

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Holocaust Comments Made by Her Deputy Dent Marine Le Pen's French Election Campaign Progress
Marine Le Pen's bid to emulate the Brexit and Trump shocks and in the face of adverse polling figures win election a risked a setbacks President of France received a potentially damaging blow on Friday (April 28) when her deputy, who is currently leading the Front National (FN) party leaving Le Pen to focus on her campaign was forced to step down in order to defend himself against charges that he shares the views of Holocaust deniers.

Champagne Socialists
I was once told by somebody who identifies herself as a supporter of the progressive left that giving dictionary definitions when a "progressive" uses a word or phrase wrongly is "something conservatives do." Unfortunately the people who corrected me were invariably wrong because rather than looking in Webster's or the Oxford English Dictionary they look only in Wiktionary. which at best only gives a part definition.

Senior Kremlin Advisor Suggests 'Cure For US Aggression'
The only way to stop the United States’ aggression is to get rid of dollar addiction, a Kremlin advisor said on Friday. "The more aggressive the Americans are the sooner they will see the final collapse of the dollar as the only way for the victims of American aggression to stop this aggression is to get rid of the dollar. As soon as we and China are through with the dollar, it will be the end of the United States’ military might," Sergey Glazyev said in an interview with TASS.

The Charge Of The Anti-enlightenment Brigade
I don’t know if many of you remember London's Atheist Bus a few years ago. It toured the city bearing adverts that read: ‘There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.’ and was a great success[ ... ] this demonstrates the Sheeple - like tendencies of those who claim they have reason on their side: the religious propagandist with the sandwich board saying ‘repent, the end is nigh' was always the subject of jokes. Why do the opposing side now feel the need to parade high tech sandwich boards saying, "no need to repent, the end isn't nigh'?

Donald Trump's Latest Appointment Exposes hypocrisy Of His 'Liberal' Opponents
We have said many times that liberals' and socialists' fondness for members of minority groups only extends to those minority group members who suppport every detail of the left wing politically correct agenda. The latest appointment by President Donald Trump to his administration proves this. The new Surgeon General appointee, Rear Admiral Sylvia Trent-Adams, a black fmale, would fill most of the criteria one would expect to make a liberal happy ...

When The Robots Rule The World
Economist and humanity hater (apparently) Paul Krugman takes up a subject that as a former Information Technology professional I have long been mildly concerned about. In these two blogs Futurism and Policy and The Conscience Of A Liberal) Krugman discusses the rise of robotics. How a big government authoritarian like Krugman can put a title that includes the words 'liberal' and 'conscience' to one of his justifications of economic Fascism is a testimony to the fact that you don't have to be either intelligent or even literate to be a university Professor

ISIS touts chemical weapons attacks, but Iraqis, US play it down
Islamic State may be on the brink of defeat in Mosul, but the terror group is determined to go down with all guns blazing. A few days ago the world was going crazy about the alleged chemical weapon attack by the Assad regime in Syria. But while European and American media and politicians were laying the outrage on with trowels, in Mosul, Iraq, the US backed 'moderate rebels' (the same ISIS afilliated guys as are our allie in Syria,) were attacking Asmerican and Iraqi government personnel with chemical weapons of their own ...

Threat Of Major Scandal Prompted Early Election Move – UKIP
Leaders of the (UKIP) have made astonishing claim that Prime Minister Teresa May’s calling an early General Election was done to pre-empt a series of by-elections that could be called following alleged electoral fraud. Accusing the Conservative government of “putting party before country”, UKIP appeared to suggest the scandal and ensuing disqualification of MPs could rob the government of its slender majority.

Russian Long Range Bombers Fly Within 36 Miles Of Alaska For Second Day In A Row
Like many people both in and outside the USA, our contributors hope for something better from President Donald J Trump, the businessman, the deal maker, than a quick return to the warmongering and belligerence of the Obama era. It was always obvious Trump would struggle to keep his campaign promise to disengage from Obama's wars, because Obama's wars were Bush's wars also, the profit engine of the military / industrial complex.

France arrests two men suspected of plotting 'imminent' attack ahead of polls
French police found guns and bomb-making materials during searches of suspected terrorist bases in the southern city of Marseille on Tuesday (April 18). Two men suspected of plotting a major attack days before presidential polls were arrested, sources with inside knowledge of police operations said. The weapons and bomb making tackle were discovered after the suspects – “radicalised) (i.e. Muslim) Frenchmen aged 23 and 29 – were taken into custody.The informants asked not to be named because they were not authorised to speak publicly.

What economists will never understand about Brexit
... soon childcare become an industry and ruled young mums out of taking part time work. If you work, you need expensive childcare. The response to this was another bureaucratic voucher system consuming vastly more money. This gradual appropriation and regulation of just about every facet of life has destroyed the voluntary ethos and in so doing has destroyed communities and made people entirely dependent on mechanisms of the state. Our welfare policy is an extension of this. The nationalisation of poor people.

As Uber Implodes Are Unicorns An Endangered Species?
Unicorns, they're fabulous, beautiful, mystical and infallible. And they have no substance to enable them to survive in the real world. I'm not talking about the Unicorns in fairy stories, like Tinkerbell they will exist in the real world as long as someone believes in them. No, I mean the high tech Unicorns that have emerged from Silicon (Silly con?) Valley in the past decade. It will take more than belief to preserve their existence.

All Is For The best In This The Best Of All Possible Worlds?The title is a phrase used to sum up the philosophy of Dr. Pangloss. "Dr. who?" you might well ask because few people today are likely to be familiar with Pangloss or his philosophies. Dr. Pangloss, you see, is a fictional character, friend and mentor to the main character in Voltaire's novel "Candide", his purpose is to highlight the foolishness of optimism in the face of reality.

The Rise Of Populism: an Explainer
It was obvious to anyone who has done even a little reading in the field of political philosophy that Barack Obama was a Marxist, not an economic Marxist but a political or cultural Marxist, whose thinking like that of The Frankfurt School and Saul Alinsky was based more on Marx's other book, The Communist Manifesto than on his impractical but good-looking-on-paper economic theories

Freedom Of Thpught And Information: Quotes
If the ruling elites want to establish global control they need to be able to control all information the general population have access to. The idea of controlling information in order to limit the ability to think and develop ideas served Hitler, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and many other dictators well…

As Middle East Analysts Focus On Syria's Alliance With Russia, They Forget Assad's Other Friend
Since the Syrian civil war began analysts commented only on Syria’s alliances with the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran. Both are important allies in President Assad’s struggle against Islamic extremist rebels, but they are not his only powerful friends. Interviewed by Chinese media last month, Assad called China, “a real friend, a friend that you can rely on.”

FBI Director James Comey Tried To Reveal Russian Tampering Months Before Election
When the eventual winner of the presidential election, billionaire Donald Trump (and the fact that Trump is a billionaire should tell you he's no angel himself) introduced into his campaign rhetoric the phrase "drain The Swamp" it seems he had littley idea how big, deep or rotten the swamp left behind by the Obama administration would actually be.

Hungary Passes Law Targeting Soros University
Hungarian lawmakers from Prime Minister Viktor Orban's Fidesz party approved a law that could force a university founded by financier George Soros out of the country despite a protests from Soros hirelings and condemnation abroad. The legislation passed with 123 votes in favor and 38 against, while 38 deputies did not vote.

AGENT REFUSED OBAMA’s HUSH MONEY & Just REVEALED THE DEPTHS OF OBAMA & HILLARY’s TREASON
In testimony last year to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, ICE Agent Taylot Johnson said she was stripped of her gun and badge without explanation after discovering fraud and abuse. She was then offered hush money in the amount of a severance package of $100,000 if she would just sign a non-disclosure agreement and quietly go away.

Will Big Data" Make A Centrally Planned Economy Possible?
Though the Marxist ideal of a centrally planned economy has been discredited everywhere both communist and socialist economic systems have been implemented, only to fail in chaos with the gap between rich and poor wider than ever and the poor reduced to penury. Both in theory and in practice, the notion of the all powerful central run by the academic and managerial class ought to have been completely buried.

Left In Denial About Europe's Immigrant Problems
In January 2015 The New York Times printed an article in which the author totally denied that there are "no-go-zones" - areas that are not under the rule of law but are controlled by immigrant criminal gangs and ruled according to sharia law by Imams linked to the gangs, and areas dominated by certain immigrant groups into which state security agents, medical staff and firefighters dare not go ...

Moscow And Beijing Join Forces To Bypass US Dollar In Global Markets, Shift To Gold Trade
Throughout this omnibus volume we have been reporting for several years on the moves by Russia, China, their allies and other nations in the Asia - Pacific zone to bypass the US dollar as the reserve currency for global trade. We have now learned the Russian central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on March 14, marking a majot step towards forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in cross border trading, and to phase-in a gold-backed universal currency of trade.

Deep State Control:Free Speech Is Under Attack And Journalism Is Dead
What has happened to the news. At one time the news press referred to itself as 'the fourth estate', a reference to the three estates of the nation, the government, The Monarchy and the church The news and commpent journals assigned to themselves the task of objectively and impartilly holding the others to account by investigating the background to events and reporting the facts. No more it seems.

Police separate far-right & anti-fascist protesters in London
Twelve people were arrested in London today as police and protesters clashed at an anti-Islamic terrorism rally organised by nationalist groups Britain First and EDL. The protest was held under the banner "London Under Attack," by Britain First, along with the anti-immigration group English Defence League (EDL), to “protest against radical Islamic terrorism.” a reference to the recent terror attack in London in which a police officer on guard duty outside the parliament building was stabbed to death and

Russia Fears Possible US Preemptive Nuclear Attack
American Intelligence Services like to brand Russia, China, Iran or North Korea as the greatest threat to world peace, according to whichever new conflict they are trying to sell to the American public. This thirst in Washington and the boardrooms of defence contractors for endless war is actually the greatest threat to world peace, stability and security.

Swedish Man Prosecuted for Assaulting Muslims with Bacon
A Swedish man has been arrested and charged with racism after being accused of eating bacon in proximity to a group of veiled Muslim women. The alleged offence occurred in the Swedish capital of Stockholm last weekend. The Swede, who has not been named by media or the police, is said to have approached the women, on a train while he was eating a bacon sandwich. He is alleged to have dangled the bacon in front of their faces

Canada Ruled By Politically Correct Stupidity?
On Thursday, March 23, the Canadian Parliament passed a blasphemy law specifically designed to protect Islam, which is unprecedented in Western democracies, where free speech is a right and freedom of worship includes the right to criticise and even mock all religions. Al-Jazeera reported on Friday, the previous day's vote condemned "Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination."

Space Travel…Will This Eventually Become A Reality?
The very concept of sending people into space has always been an interest to me, not because I actually believe it will happen, but just with the thoughts of how far we would have to advance, technically in order to achieve such a quest. I was reading an article which spoke of someone who was wondering if we would ever form colonies in space, and I felt compelled to respond. This was my response.

Boat Migrants Landing in Italy ‘at a Pace Exceeding Anything We’ve Seen Before’
The International Organization for Migration (IOM) estimates 20,484 migrants have arrived in Europe by sea since the beginning of 2017, with numbers now averaging around 3000 per day and increasing as spring brings better weather. These numbers put Italian arrivals well ahead of the total for the first three months of 2015 (10,165) and the first three months of 2016 (18,777)

How to stop Google tracking your every move
Do you ever get the feeling you are being watched or followed? OK, it could possibly be because you are paranoid but more likely you’ve noticed a few things that are just beyond creepy when you are using the web and particularly Google services. For example, has an advertisement for a product or service ever popped up on your screen just after you were talking to someone about it?

Men Menstruate? Latest Dickheadedness From The Legion Of The Dickless
Yes you read that headline right, the GayBLTQetc. lobby propagandists are now pushing the most preposterous idea yet in their determination to make unequal things equal. A colouring book aimed at children in the age range that use colouring books floats the idea that men can have periods.

Wikileaks: Clinton Campaign Team Bribed Republicans To Smear TrumpThe latest batch of electronic documents release by WikiLeaks contain email that appear to show  Hillary Clinton campaign staffers bribed 6 Republicans to discredit Trump during the Presidential election campaign. John Podesta, who worked as Chair opf the Hillary Clinton campaign wrote to Huma Abedin, Hillary's personal assistant regarding the possibility of diverting Clinton campaign funds to various Republicans who were secretly on the Clinton payroll.

Chemtrails Exposed - NASA has admitted weather modification experiments
We know that since World war Two ended governments have been engaged in experiments to control weather, they know we know, so why keep denying it. Repeated denials of projects like chemtrail spraying and HAARP have only spawned more, and more outlandish conspiracy theories. So what is going on?

Australian Aborigines and Eurasians Left Africa at the same time?
One of the internet memes propagated a broadcast by the Church Of Scienceology cult, those closed minded people who believe science is infallible omnipresent and omniescent is the "Weez Aalz From Afrireekaa" fallacy, so when I spotted online an article reporting a news study which, relying heavily on guesses and assumptions, made a case that all humans living outside Africa were put there by a mass migration between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago ...

EU punishes Turkey For Repairing Relations With NATO Public Enemy No1 Russia
Leaving aside the current spat between The Netherlands and Turkey which is a different thing altogether, The EU’s diplomatic service is currently trying to punish Turkey for seeking better relations with Russia, after their supporting different sides in the Syria conflict brought the two nations close to war. It is true that NATO member Turkey has recently shown less commitment to the West, but there are probably good reasons for this ...

Does It matter If The Dollar Is Replaced?
While mainstream media in the developed world continues to agonise over the Trump presidency, the rise of nationalism in Europe and the threat they pose to the global elite, important changes are happening within the strategic triangle of Russia, Iran and China, which has been engaged in economic manoeuvres to replace the US dollar as global reserve currency for a decade.

White Girl Is Burned Alive, 17 Black Gang Members Arrested. Mainstream Media Blanks The Story Remember how the Social Justice Warriors of the politically correct 'left' screamed when a young black man named Trayvon Martin was shot by Hispanic George Zimmerman, because it was assumed someone named Zimmerman would be white? Remember how they wailed and stirred up civil unrest when a black man was shot by white cops in Ferguson, Missouri, automatically assuming the the killing was racially motivated. more >>>

The University Formerly Known As Cardiff Polytechnic Published List Of Forbidden Words Cardiff Metropolitan University formerly known as Cardiff Polytechnic may not be a seat of learning on a par with Oxford, Cambridge, Heidelberg, The Sorbonne or Princeton but when it comes to politically correct idiocy it is at the right up there with Harvard, Uppsala, University of California or The London school of Economics more>>>

Things Are Getting crazier In USA As Trump Supporters Push Back Against Obamas Silent Coup

A congressional investigation has revealed that the Obama administration channeled billions of dollars to activist groups through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme. “It’s clear partisan politics played a role in the illicit actions that were made,” Republican Representative John Ratcliffe of Texas told Fox News. “The DOJ is the last place this should have occurred.” more >>>

Donald Trump Just Exposed Obama for HORRIBLE Crime! HERE IS THE PROOF!!
As the first scandal to hit the Trump Administration, the truped-up accusations that team members had contact with Russia was splashed over mainstream media, American liberals were quick to claim (dishonestly) that the Obama administration had been scandal free. The “scandal-free” Obama’s may finally have just been caught red-handed. This morning President Trump took to Twitter from the Mar-a-Lago resort to reveal a HORRIFYING crime committed by Barack Obama right before he left office: Political wiretapping!
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Are Spineless, Snivelling Liberal Scum Sucker Bringing Back Blasphemy Crimes To The West For The Sake Of Sucking Up To Islamic Extremists?
All the signs suggest the Western democracies are submitting to presure from Islamic extremists and reviving blasphemy laws, but applying them only to those who insult Islam. We are still free to be obscenely disrespectful to Christianity, Judaeism, Hinduism and buddhism. Canada and Denmark are leading the way back to medieval religious oppression ...more >>>

Jacob Rothschild Says Putin “A Traitor To The New World Order”


Jacob Rothschild, patriarch of the megarich banking family, and a leading proponent of the drive to create a global authoritarian government made up of people drawn from the corporate and financial elite, has accused Russian president Vladimir Putin of being a "traitor to the New World Order". Evidence we have suggests the elitist conspiracy sees Russia as an obstacle that must be removed before its plan for a global government can be completed more >>>

Katie Hopkins Reports From Hellacious Sweden, ‘Where Females Fear to Tread’
A news feed filled with reports of the rape and assault of Sweden’s young women, some inexplicably streamed live on Facebook by the gang as they attacked. Other reports filed quietly away in a box marked unmentionable: the rape of a 12-year-old unaccompanied immigrant by a so called fellow 'unaccompanied minor' immigrant who later bragged he was 45.

Junk Food Killing Kids? We often hear about the plague of obesity from talking – head ‘nutrition experts’ on TV, but less is said about the other problem caused by a diet of junk food. On a typical teenager’s diet it is possible to develop both obesity and malnutrition. On the flip side, you have malnutrition. According to the United Nations (UN) special rapporteur, Hilal Elver, Ph.D., the impact of processed food on public health is “alarming.”

Report casts new doubts on WETC official story The controversy goes on, fifteen years later. While it ought to be obvious even to the most casual observer that the way the twin towers collapsed on 9/11 did not look as if it could be the result of a random strike (and Tower 7 was not hit by anything - well a careless sparrow maybe,) many people who should know better but are in awe of authority continue to scream conspiracy theorist at even those well qualified to challlence the official narrative.

Oslo Police Declare “We Have Lost the City”…Islam Has Taken Over
While attention has been focused on Sweden because of remarks made by US President Donald Trump, the apocalyptic level of culturally-enriched violence in neighbouring Norway and particularly in Grønland, a district of the capital city of Oslo. After years of unchecked immigration it looks more like Karachi, Basra, and Mogadishu all rolled into one than part of a Scandinavian capital. People sell drugs openly just next to the Grønland subway station.

American Journalists Who Travelled To Sweden To Debunk Trumps Comments About Migrant Violence Run Out Of Town by Migrants
Two journalists from Chicago who had travelled to Sweden with the intention of debunking Donald Trump's allegations that in Sweden's cities there are many immigrant dominated suburbs that have become trouble spots and 'no - go zones' for Europeans and that the country is a dangerous place to visit had to be given a police escort so they could safely leave an immigrant neighbourhood in Stockholm.

Germany Facing Mass Blackouts Because The Wind And Sun Won’t Cooperate
Germany’s power grid came close tp collapse in January because the poor performance from sustainables, wind turbines and solar panels which the Germany government encouraged heavy investment in, data from a major trade union leaked to German business newspaper Deutsche Wirtschasfts Nachrichten.

Courts Quietly Confirm MMR Vaccine Causes Autism
After decades of passionate debate, parents probably missed the repeated admissions by drug companies and governments alike that vaccines do in fact cause autism. For concerned parents seeking the truth, it’s worth remembering that the exact same people who own the world’s drug companies also own America’s news outlets. Finding propaganda-free information has been difficult, until now.

CIA Admists Using fake News To Subvert Democracy For Decades
Newly-declassified documents show that a senior CIA agent and Deputy Director of the Directorate of Intelligence worked closely with the owners and journalists of many of the largest media outlets. The United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities found in 1975 that the CIA submitted stories to the American press.

Left Complicit In Violence Ripping Through Paris Migrant Neighbourhoods?
As rioting by immigrant populations spreads from the poorer areas of Paris to the city centre and civil unrest spreads throughout France, former special advisor to France’s interior ministry Hugues Moutouh has accused the left-wing political establishment of complicity in the violence raging through the country’s migrant-dominated suburbs.

Infant Twins Die Shortly After Being Vaccinated, Medical Board Rules ‘Just A Coincidence’
In this era of high tech health care and rapidly advancing developments of drug therapy, sudden infant death syndrome (cot death) is a rare thing in the developed world, around one per hundred according to World Health Organisation statistics. Given that, you might think the sudden and simultaneous deaths of twins might cause somne raised eyebrows among medical professionals ...

PARIS ERUPTS: Many streets are NO-GO ZONES As Immigrant Violence Spreads
Five large areas have been reduced to no go areas for the past five nights as masked men cause mayhem on the streets. Now there are fears the fall out from allegations of police brutality could spread all over the country as unrest in the city grows. Police were hit with molotov cocktails and the heavy metal balls used in the French game Petanque ...

J.K. Rowling Goes Silent After Getting Challenged To Put Her Money Where Her Mouth Is
JK Rowling, who wrote 7 great books for kids (and an absolutely shit one for grown ups) has become one of those annoying celebrities who thinks we all need to hear regularly from her on the topic of how to live our lives. she sees no reason why a superior being such as her should abide by the advice she dishes out to the rest of us.

Corruption: Paraphrasing Johnny Rotten, 'Never trust a fahkin' liberal'
As the 'liberal supporters of Barack Obama's hapless presidency and more recently the US Democratic Party's 2016 failed candidate 'Crooked Hillary' Clinton whip themselves into an ever greater frenzy over the hugely entertaining antic of President Trump, An editorial at Investors Business Daily may end up being considered by historians as defining exactly why the Obama administration failed so catastrophically ...

Is a Global Wide Cash Ban Coming?

Anyone who has been paying attention over the last four years knows the Europe is ground zero for Central Planning insanity. Europe was created as a union with open borders with the open flow of capital. However, the elites have clearly demonstrated that they are willing to lie cheat and steal in order to maintain their agenda.

Trump Foiled Soros' Master Plan to Impose New World Order - Hedge Fund Manager
President Donald Trump came to power just in time to prevent George Soros and Hillary Clinton achieving a secret Trans Pacific trade deal, that would have transferred sovereign rights to global corporations Wall Street hedge fund manager and financial analyst Mitch Feierstein told Sputnik. George Soros and Clinton Inc. were nearly able to declare the ‘New World Order’ complete" hedge fund manager Feierstein, said on Tuesday.

TIME Magazine runs vile hit piece against Robert Kennedy Jr. for daring to tell the truth about mercury in vaccines
When newly inagurated President Donald Trump appointed Robert Kennedy, Jr. to head a commission to investigate and report on vaccine safety, it was inevitable the Big Pharma Corporations, the big money interest behind them, and their 'pet poodle' scientists would hit back and try to undermine the initiative. That it would happen so quickly, with higly respected fake news publication Time magazine lining up its biggest hitters to smear Kennedy's reputation

The War On Cash Intensifies In Response To Trump and Brexit
It appears Europe is charging towards a cashless society. Just days after Davos’ elites discussed why the world needs to “get rid of currency,” the European Commission has introduced a proposal enforcing “restrictions on payments in cash.” – because only terrorists and drug-dealers need cash (nothing at all to do with totalitarian control over a nation’s wealth) – we are not surprised that this proposal from the European Commission would appear…

French Finance Minister Says UK’s May Is Not In A Position To Negotiate With Trump You have to wonder just who the testicularly deficient little pen pusher of the failing EuroNazi project think they are. What do they not understand about Brexit that enables them to think they can still tell us what we can and can’t do? They may have got away with it while cottaging Prime Minister Blair or Old Etonian bum boy Cameron were in charge ...

Obama’s Gone, But His Genocidal Wars Go On
Continued fighting in Yemen between Houthi rebels seeking to overthrow the tyrannical Sunni Muslim government and ground and air forces of the SSaudi Arabian led coalition backed by the Obama administration in the USA killed at least 66 people in 24 hours, medics and security sources said on Sunday.
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Inauguration crowd size lies: The Hypocrisy Of Mainstream Media Is Infinite When They Can Publish Shite Like This


Trump and liberals exchange insults over wether the inauguration audience for Trump was bigger than Obama's or not. It's hard to know which side is lying, probably both of them.
Liberal hypocrisy

‘Integrate or Leave’: As Wilders Surges in Polls Dutch PM Ramps Up Migrant Rhetoric


Just one day after polls which gave Geert Wilders’s insurgent populist party a nine-point lead on the ruling conservatives, Prime Minister Rutte took out a full page advert and spoke in an interview with Dutch daily Algemeen Dagblad to tell migrants they should integrate or leave, and to issue a call for a return to “common decency”.

Soros Is Responsible for Europe's Immigration Crisis Says Hungary's Viktor Orban
With Britain's Conservative Government pressing ahead with a 'hard Brexit agenda, and the Trump administration setting abou demolishing the expressway to socialism Barack Obama had spent eight years contruction, there is a lot of speculation and precious little hard evidence to indicate where the globalist elite, having seen their ambition for a world government thwarted will go next.
More Soros mischief

Post Trump and Brexit, Predicting The Globalists Next Move
Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has made the American billionaire and philanthropist George Soros for the current refugee movements in Europe with responsibility. "This invasion (of migrants) on the one hand steered from the tractor business, on the other hand of those (human) activists who support everything that the nation-states weakens,
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The role of cosmic electric currents in earth’s climate
If you’ve been following the growth of the Electric Universe movement, you know that this growth is due largely to the power of a new paradigm to explain things left unexplained by conventional theory. The greatest surprises of the space age are not surprises to researchers exploring the role of the electric force across the cosmos. Nor is it surprising to see the electric force at work close to home, both in the sculpting of planetary surfaces and in the evolution of life on earth ...

The Reality Of Globalism - World Trade Has Increased By Less Than 1% Annually In The Last Decade
There can be little doubt that 2016 was the year the great pushback against globalisation and the push towards an authoritarian world government (NWO) really got off the ground. Fears that the world is on the edge of rejecting globalization and a global economy, with its false promise of prosperity for all and its reality of an ever widening gap between rich and poor have dominated ...

World Bank Aims to Hand Over Seed Industry to Agribusiness
Today Donald Trump will be inaugurated as 45h President of The United States, his victory in the November election having been a major setback to those dark forces that give the impression only one more big push was needed to drive the world into accepting a global authoritarian government. Trump's victory, combined with 'Brexit' the vote by British citizens to leave the EU, combined to make 2026 a bad year for the globalists.

The Left In Meltdown
As the UK Labour Party crumbles into complete disarray with it’s leader, the sixty – eight year old perpetual student protestor Jeremy Corbyn proving a more divisive figure than any of his predecessors, as he sacrifices more and more votes on the altar of fashionable causes, and the EU, natural successor to Hitler’s European unification project falls apart in the face of resurgent cultural nationalism, it is quite satisfying to see ...

Fake News and fake Fake News
The buzz phrase this past month has been ‘Fake News’ as over in the USA the Donald Trump camp have had to swat away repeated attempts to smear and the discredit the victor in the 2016 Presidential Election and supporters of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, unable to accept their team lost because people rejected perpetual war and ...

Obama Has been An Inspirational President?Well He Probably Inspired More Suicides Than Any Other Obama’s greatest achievement perhaps it to have put Donald Trump in The White House. Whether you think this is a good or bad thing depends on your political stance. This blog is neutral, our view being that Trump can’t be a worse president than any of the three that preceded him.

Over 4000 Civilians Have Died In Forgotten War.
As attention has focused on Syria ans then on the efforts of the Obama administration, in its dying months, to avenge the defeat of the anointed successor Hillary Clinton and discredit the election victor and President - elect Donald Trump, and simultaneously demonize Russia and President Putin

NEW CHAINS FOR OLD
The problem with losing your chains is knowing what to do when you are free to act without them. The answer most people choose should not really be all that surprising.

Former UK Ambassador Says Obama's 'Russian Hacking' Claims Are Bullshit
Former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, who has always publicly opposed the demonization of Russia by United States and European Union official propaganda and has in the past collaborated with WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange to expose western propaganda as being aimed at persuading voters war with Russia and China,is justified has dismissed the CIA's claims that Russia interfered in last month’s presidential election as "bullshit"

An Item In Todays News About US Gov't Internet Security Hack has Tipped Our Editor Over The Edge
The US election was on November 8, by November 12 it should have gone away, but the Democrats, proven crooks and liars who crookedly rigged their own selection process to cheat a man who could have beaten Trump out of the nomination and ensure their candidate was the traitor, war criminal, liar, AND head of the Clinton Crime Syndicate Hillary Clinton as their candidate.

Democrats Russia Hacked Us and Failed Recount Campaign is Political Suicide. The US Democratic Party’s inability to accept that they lost the Presidency to Donald Trump is turning into a slow polictical sucicide. The party that has always been quick to scream ‘conspiracy theorist’ to discredit critics of its dealings with oversreas governments and foreign billionaires like Soros has revealed in its efforts to overturn the result by claimING that Russian hacking influenced voters in favour of Trump.

Oxford University wants to turn English into a sterilized Orwellian language
Oxford University, one of the oldest universities in the world and, one might think, the 'home' of the English language is now, it seems, engaged in a New World Order campaign to destroy the English Language. It appears the finest young minds in society are so deeply offended by words that remind them men and women are biologically they, backed by their fuckwitted Marxist lecturers and professors, are demanding gender specific pronouns be abolished.

I Was Right - Gravilty Does Not Exist

Well OK, saying gravity does not exist is a bit of an oversimplification, but there is strong evidence Isaac Newton's theory of what makes things fall to the ground, which does not attempt to explain how gravity makes things fall, but only states gravity is a natural force, really misunderstood what was going on.

France Falling Apart As The World Looks On
France will elect a new president in May 2017. Politicians are already campaigning and debating about deficits, welfare recipients, GDP growth, and so on, but they look like puppets disconnected from the real country. Violence. It is spreading. Not just terrorist attacks; pure gang violence. The media does not dare to say that this violence is coming mainly from Muslim gangs

The Internet Purge Of Politically Incorrect (aka truthful) Content Begins
Facebook, Google (owners of YouTube) and Microsoft have long been known as CIA collaborators and it has been acknowledged that Obama's move in divesting the US government of responsibility for ICANN allows The White House to make outraged noises about suppression of free speech while using Search Engine Operators as proxies to shut down anything challinging US and NATO propaganda (on the grounds no doubt that challenging the politically correct orthodoxy constitutes hate speech.)

UK Education: Ofsted, Not The Government, Is Blighting Poor Pupils’ Chances
Experienced teacher say it is possible to teach effectively with that kind of a workload and although such working hours are common in business and commerce, people in those sectors do not have to deal with stupid, snotty nosed, hormonally hyperactive adolescents.

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