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The Only Extremists In Mainstream Politics Are Progressive Liberals

When the "progressive liberals" of the loony left start accusing the UK Independence Party of being right wing extremists it's time to take a close look at politics and discover who the real swivel eyed extremists are. Eyes left everyone

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The Only Extremists In Mainstream Politics Are Progressive Liberals

by Ed Butt 31 March 2012 UKIP are not 'far Right' as the "progressive liberals" in Guardian Comment Is Free threads or on loony leftie blogs like Liberal Conspiracy would have you believe. There's nothing extremist about rejecting the 'benefits of diversity' and pointing out that multiculturalism has failed and left the once great modern experiment in cultural diversity, the United States of America, a bitterly divided nation, split so profoundly on political, religious and racial lines it is probably not just a broken society to borrow David Cameron's phrase, but completely FUBAR.

Imagine the outcry if someone tried to link issues of inequality and poverty to extreme Left-wing violence of the Baader-Meinhof and Red Brigade variety and that Labour voters shared some of the same concerns with supporters of the these so-far--Left-they're-right-of-Hitler organisations.

Picture this report being illustrated with a picture of a gun beside a red flag and jackboots, and pictures of Ed Miliband and Harriet Harman photoshopped into group shots of Sandanista or Khmer Rouge Left-wing extremists. If you support UK Uncut I am sure you’d consider it an unwarranted slur if your group was compared to terrorist bombers and murderers.

How then must members of the democratic and law abiding UK Independence Party feel about the Hope Not Hate report, a farrago of left wing hate literature mashed up by extreme lefties with section headings such as “Voting to violence? Far right extremism in Britain”, which lumps the UKIP in with the British National Party and English Defence League in a study of Right-wing extremists.

The report was produced in response to a Home Office committee ( a bunch of Cambridge educated, shirt lifting fellow travellers of the SWP) last year that declared that the risk of extreme Right-wing violence was underplayed and that there was a serious terror threat from these groups. The aim of this report, therefore, is to explore the intellectual source from which these Right-wing terrorists will emerge.

The report graphically highlights the central dominance of immigration and a fear of Islam to supporters of both the British National Party (BNP) and United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP). This is despite the leadership of both organisations playing down their hardline views. In fact the BNP and UKIP supporters share a mutual hostility mistrust and hostility. While the BNP are openly hostile to immigrant groups, particularly Muslims, but otherwise much closer to the collectivist ideals of the Labour Party in the 1950s, redistribution of wealth through taxation and benefis, job creation by public spending, a tough line on law and order and the promotion of Btitish culture and values in schools, UKIP's wariness about immigration is linked to deep seated suspicion of the drive towards further sacrifice of sovereign power to the EU and a wider discontent with British democracy and distrust towards those who represent it.

The report is sloppy, more interested in advancing a political agenda than reporting the truth. Consider this line: "One of the most worrying aspects of this research is the attitude of BNP, UKIP and English Defence League (EDL) supporters to violence."

Why UKIP? While the BNP and EDL say they will meet violence with violence and then go out of their way to provoke their hysterical opponents in groups like The Anti Nazi League and Unite Against Fascism, UKIP do not hold marches, their suporter are mostly middle aged and middle class people who respect the law and democratic values.

Secondly the reports authors state, "We wanted to compare and contrast supporters of different movements to the Right of the centre-right Conservatives. Not all movements that occupy the far right-wing are the same: whereas some, such as the British National Party (BNP), are associated more strongly with ideological extremism, criminality and violence, other movements, such as the more moderate UK Independence Party (UKIP), advocate similar policies in many areas but would strongly reject any association with extremism and violence. Understanding whether, and if so how, their supporters differ may be an important step to understanding what pushes and pulls citizens further along the political spectrum."

There is a surreal detachment from facts in this point of view. UKIP and BNP supporters, the report argues, “are almost unanimous in their rejection of the notion that Britain is benefiting from diversity”.

And, implicitly one would have to be literally insane, a genocidal lunatic to hold such a view. The Daily Stirrer has often argued that the left are such zealots in promoting their quasi religious political doctrine religious political doctrine they cannot understand how any sane person could hold a different view.

Yet supporters of a report that defines “far Right” as someone who thinks that mass immigration is overall a bad thing has a big problem with reality themselves. Recently the Guardian reported that UKIP supporters had been included as a “control” group, but if that was the case, why not just compare these “far Right” views with those of the public in general? Because opinions defined as extremist in the report are, in fact, mainstream. An overwhelming majority of voters think mass immigration, unemployment and anti social behaviour among the young are very important issue while same sex marriage and equality issues, which don't register on the radar, are all the left wants to talk about

A survey carried out for Channel 4 television in 2009 for example, showed a majority of Conservative voters and a plurality of Labour and Liberal Democrats agreeing that “all further immigration to the UK should be halted”. A clear majority of Tory voters disagreed with the statement that Britain had benefited from the “arrival in recent decades of people from many countries and cultures”, expressing similar levels of concern as UKIP supporters. Some 53 per cent of Labour voters agreed, and 56 per cent of Liberal Democrats.

Last year’s HOPE Not Hate report showed that 63 per cent of white Britons, and almost half of Asians, believed that immigration had been a bad thing for Britain; presumably then some 40 per cent of British Asians are potential white supremacists. The report stated that half of the British population would vote for a “far-Right” party that did not promote violence. In fact their description of “far Right” was not far-Right in any traditional sense, that is being totalitarian, violent, obsessed with race, and violently hostile to women's rights and gays; it was just one that rejected the “benefits of diversity” and wanted to restrict immigration. There is an unwitting humour to the logic here; the report's leftist authors are saying, we're politically correct, that makes us the centre, everyone who disagrees with us is an extremist.

Another problem with this latest report is the wording of the questions. It found that roughly a third of UKIP supporters agreed or strongly agreed that “immigrants should be sent back to their home country, whether or not they break the law.” That seems harsh, but do they mean all immigrants? If they had added this word then I imagine the numbers in favour would be pretty small; otherwise it’s an ambiguous question. Most would agree, for example, that extremist Muslim cleric Abu Qatada should be deported even though he has committed no crime here, but not popular actor Shobna Gultari who though not born here is thoroughly British. And what is the view of the public at large? The report only compares “extreme” views with the general population in one question.

Then the questions about violence, “Violence between different ethnic, racial or religious groups is largely inevitable” or “violence may be needed to protect my group from threats”; these are theoretical, existential questions. The former is also incredibly vague – do they mean Balkans-style perpetual war or low-level, everyday conflict that afflicts all diverse societies?

This report only proves that Hope Not Hate, like many of the other organisations dedicated to "fighting racism", have a rather skewed idea of what “Far-Right” and “extreme” is? Hope Not Hate might do good work in some areas, seems stuck in a very old fashioned view of anti-racism which confuses racial hatred with “localism”, that is the natural human feeling of being happier around people like ourselves, and not being at ease with diversity. This kind of "right wing extremism" is felt by the ethnic groups of the dark skinned races. One of the biggest mistakes the anti -racists make is the ridiculous over simplification of semi - educated American preacher - politicians. Martin Luther King lumped all people of the dark skinned races with the exception of Chinese as being linked by "black consciousness." In fact among the tribal societies of Africa there is no sense of such a bond and some neighbouring tribes have bee in conflict for hundreds of years. As a dark skinned Arab what they think of sub Saharan Africans and you will most likely be able to pick out a the word "kaffir" among a stream of curses. It is not a nice word.

Left wing Anti-racism, which has its roots in the Utopian ideology of far-Left intellectuals, holds that these universal feelings can be somehow be engineered out of human nature, just as the Soviets believed that our desire for financial self-interest could be eradicated or the Nazis believed that political dissent could be removed.

UKIP is something of a strange beast politically, a mixture of libertarians and social conservatives; aside from the Greens, it is the only party openly considering supporting the legalisation of cannabis. Economically it is the polar opposite of the BNP, but it’s true to say that like that party it draws much of its support from people alienated and repulsed by the new world order style of politics that appears to be moving us towards an oligarchic system of absolute rule by academic, technocratic and political elites. Social conservatives who overall feel happier with the values of pre-1968 Britain, whether patriotism, marriage, crime and punishment, or sexual mores; and libertarians who hate the way that the cultural revolution has brought a massively expanded state with an insatiable appetite for making new laws, regulating everything and imposing conformity to the extent that our lives are now micromanaged by the bureaucracy, New Labour’s era was a nadir for both wings of the party. UKIPpers have a bloody minded and typically British opposition to nanny state wagging her finger, telling them off for drinking, smoking, eating enjoyable food and having fun, while her multitudinous armies of tax eater are leeching their their money, whether it's in the name of "health inequality" or "promoting diversity" or any of the other mantras that the clergy of the statist left repeat ad nauseam.

The real irony of Hope Not Hate is that the report seeks to address peoples’ alienation from mainstream politics, but characterises them as extremists for supporting a mainstream party the authors do not like. Is it any wonder that people feel so disconnected?

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In India the deeply unpopular Modi government is facing a massive revolt against possibly corrupt and certainly undemocratic collaboration with biotech giants like Du Pont and Monsanto in trying to use legislative power to force farmers to accept the introduction of Genetically Modified seed. Protests against the Government and ruling coalition took place in Delhi on ...

Pesticide residues on fruit and veg. is harming male fertility, study claims

Pesticide residues on some fruits and vegetables could be harming men’s fertility, a study has claimed. Researchers found that men who consumed the most peppers, spinach, strawberries, apples and pears – which tend to contain the highest concentrations of pesticide – had on average a 49 per cent lower sperm count than those who ate the least.

ExxonMobil Tells The Guardian To Stick Their Leftie Hypocrisy Where The Lights Don't Shine
We have often made points about the hypocroisy of the left, particularly those lefties who support the global warming scaremongering of the Warmageddonist Lobby who spread false propaganda about climate change in order to justify punitive taxes on the fuels that produce the energy than make modern sociaty viable.

Sources: Saudi Arabia Sends over 5,000 Takfiri Terrorists to Yemen

According to as yet unconfirmed reports from Iranian news agency Farsnews, "Saudi Arabia has sent around 5,000 Takfiri mercenaries to fight against the Yemeni army and revolutionary committees," Yemeni Army Commander Colonel Abdel Sattar al-Boushali told FNA on Saturday night.

The Sillyosity Of The Loony Left
It's great to watch the increasing silliness of the left, particularly those Maoist bigots the BBC passes off as impartial and objective news commentators. This morning they were all creaming their pants about an opinion poll about a YouGov poll for the Sunday Times. Topline figures are CON 32%, LAB 36%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 6%.

Europe Pulls Rug From Under Greece, Says "Nein" To "Vague, Piecemeal" Proposals
The noises coming out of the meeting room where officials from Greece were in talks with EU finance ministers sounded positive. Greek talks with their creditors have ended badly however for the desperately cash-strapped nation.

Climate Change and Leftist Psycological Malware.
It may seem far fetched but it is possible to link the techniques of the climate change / anti capitalist lobby to the brainwashing prorammes used by the Nazis in Germany, Stalin's Soviet regime in Russia and Chaitrman Mao's brutal government in Communist China. Thus it becomes quite similar to malware that infects computer systems. The left do not care about saving the planet, all they are interested in is advancing their totalitarian, globalist agenda.

Libya, Syria, Yemen: Sectarian conflict threatens entire Middle East
Another failure of US foreign policy leads to threat of war as a coalition of 10 Sunni Arab states launches a military offensive against Shiite Houthi militants in Yemen, recently proclaimed by America’s president as a brilliant example of war on terror, but now catapulting the Middle East into the inferno of battle.

Obama's Terrible Trade Pact Is a Scam That Must Be Stopped Says Jim Hightower
Having written a book on the evil trade treaty that will transform the democratic nations into corporate oligarchies, we step aside and hand the baton to Jim Hightower of Alternet who is equally outraged about the iniquities of TTIP's equally evil twin, TPP.

"I'm Not Stupid" Monsanto Lobbyist Refuses To Drink Weedkiller After Proclaiming "It Won't Hurt You"
The glib claim backfired however when the Monsanto lobbyist was offered a glass of diluted Roundup (active ingredient Glyphosate) and asked to drink it.
"Do you think I'm stupid, " the lobbyist blustered ...

Rotherham Child Sex Abuse Probe Puts 42 Police Officers Under Invesitigation
allegations against police officers include neglect of duty by failing to adequately investigate on the basis of evidence or to deal with incidents appropriately, inappropriate comments and evidence of corrupt relationships between police officers and offenders.

U.S. versus Russia War: Top Russian Politics Scolar Stephen Cohen Tells The Truth
We have been blogging for four years about the US drive for war, provocation of Russia in Syria, Iraq, Ukraine and elsewhere made it obvious. But I'm just a news junkie with a strong sense of curiosity and have wondered why the US seems set on this course. Good to see experts like Stephen Cohen, a prominent expert on, Russia are coming onside.

Google Meets White House Officials Every Week, Why?
We have been very suspicious for ten years of the way Google with such apparent ease achieved a dominant position in web search. How did it happen, did Google do something evil, did they invoke the powers of darkness in their meteoric rise. Or were there even darker forces at work, powering Google to a position in which their internet technologies could dominate global information flows? Here's something cynics should read.

Venezuela's President Maduro Accuses USA Of Psychological Warfare
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has accused forces in the United States, Colombia, and Spain of waging an international “psychological war campaign” against his country. Barack Obama is behind a psychological war campaign to justify a coup in Venezuela said Maduro (who is not known for emotional restraint in his speeches) as he presented the results of the CELAC meeting in Costa Rica and elaborated on one of the grandest conspiracy theories yet proposed by his government.

The US House of Representatives Openly Calls for Regime Change in Moscow
Aside from Washington's usual lust for war, and the enthusiasm of American politicians to act as cheerleaders for death and destruction (so as to secure their billions in military industrial complex campaign donations, (graft, bungs, slush money, payola), a key part of a new bill before the House of Representatives which calls for lethal aid to Ukraine, has nothing to do with Ukraine at all.

Banning Cash Will Stop Terrorism (and end war, poverty, disease and bad smells)
The cashless society has been talked of for a long time by worshippers of authority, science fanboys, supporters of left wing politics and other people who think that nice Mr. Hitler had some good ideas really, but leading the race to ban cash because it is an aid to terrorism is the extereme right wing National Socialist regime in France.

Stupidity Of America's Lust For War With Russia
We have reported many times on the American attempts to provoke Russia's leader Vladimir Putin in the hope that Puting will then fire the first shot in the war the USA so desperately needs to revive its failed economy, unify its dysfunctional society and restore is to the position of dominant global superpower ...

TThe Idea Of An Infinite Universe Is Fashionable Again
The now little discussed (due to the witch hunt tactics employed by the scientific consensus gangsters) idea of an infinite, eternal, self renewing universe makes a lot more sense than a point at which everything suddenly materialises out of nothing.

Free Speech Is Being Murdered By The Media And Left Wing Authoritarianism
Without free speech there is no democracy. Without democracy there is no freedom. But all over the developed world free speech is under attack from politically correct politics. It is time to start resisting, do not believe the propaganda published by mainstream media, question everything and make up your own mind. as The Buddha said, "Believe nothing you read or are told unless it agrees with your own experience and common sense."

To Infinity And Beyond - Big Bang Theory Trashed?
One 'scientific fact' Little Nicky has challenged in the past is Big Bang Theory. I have lost count of the times that having offered proof that Big Bang is not a fact, the universe is in reality infinite I have become involved in thousand - comment threads in which the arguments of the Big Bang sceptics were contradicted by science tits screeching, "It is a fact because we say it is."

De - dollarization Moves Ahead - Once Again We Told You So.
Add the IMF to the (now long) list of those who apparently share the UK’s view that joining the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank is an “unrivaled opportunity,” as Christine Largarde says her institution not only sees a “massive” opportunity for cooperation with the AIIB but is also “delighted” to explore the possibilities.

World Domination Freak Bill Gathes Appeals For World Government
In a recent interview with the German magazine “Süddeutsche Zeitung“, Bill Gates, son of a CIA director and the New World Order's 'made man' uttered some highly sinister comments in support of abolishing democracy and nationhood in favour of world government.

Another Reason To Get Out Of EU. UKIP MEP Hits Out At Fishing Policy That Penalises British Fishing Crews
As the General Election campaign starts to heat up, we try to shift focus away from the squabbling between Conservative and Labour about who can make the most promises they have no intention of keeping and to the real issues concerning jobs, social breakdown , mass immigration, and an often overlooked area in which our EU membership has perhaps done more damage than any other, the fishing industry.

German Ubermacht Gives Greek Upstats The Finger In European Union Confrontation. The confrontation between Germany, which some say sees itself as the increasingly dominant nation in the EU as 'ever closer integration' progresses, and Greece, the Euro zone economic basket case but a proud and independent nation all the same, had to come. Germany was more austerity from Greece to protect the value of the Greek debt it hold. Greece want money from Germany to settle old grievances.

France Moves to Make ‘Conspiracy Theories’ Illegal by Government Decree
Political elites and super-bureaucrats must be very worried. New start up political parties, dismissed as populist byt in reality listening to the concerns of voters are making inroads into the political status quo. New media investigative journalists and op-ed writers are challenging the official propaganda (and gaining an ever bigger audience). It’s becoming harder to control consensus reality.

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